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Old 03-14-2024, 01:50 AM   #31
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Old 03-14-2024, 10:03 AM   #32
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As usual, great post Jeff.

There's one thing that I don't understand about all these studies. Let's assume one of either the vaccine or infection has a greater risk of causing myocarditis or similar heart issues than the other.

A lot of the population has clearly had both vaccination and infection.

In fact, maybe the combination is of greater risk than each alone?

That makes it harder to know where the greater risk is actually coming from.

Are they controlling for that in some way?

I think you'd want to study the people that definitely had an infection but did not get vaccinated as some kind of partial control. It would be harder to look at those that were vaccinated but never had an infection because many of them may not even know they had it.
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Old 03-14-2024, 10:40 AM   #33
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As usual, great post Jeff.

There's one thing that I don't understand about all these studies. Let's assume one of either the vaccine or infection has a greater risk of causing myocarditis or similar heart issues than the other.

A lot of the population has clearly had both vaccination and infection.

In fact, maybe the combination is of greater risk than each alone?

That makes it harder to know where the greater risk is actually coming from.

Are they controlling for that in some way?

I think you'd want to study the people that definitely had an infection but did not get vaccinated as some kind of partial control. It would be harder to look at those that were vaccinated but never had an infection because many of them may not even know they had it.
Re: The bolded text from your quote --

That's exactly what they should study.

That's exactly what the authors of the Penn State meta-analysis didn't study.

Yet it's exactly what the headlines crafted by the CDC and mainstream media led everybody to believe the authors of the Penn State meta-analysis had studied.

And that's exactly my point about the 'phuckery' waiting once you go down the rabbit hole.

The only way you study that is you enlist the unvaccinated into a study and do seroprevalence testing among them. Break them out into two groups: The unvaccinated with and without Covid antibodies. Follow them for a few years and report their medical outcomes including myocarditis.

But for some reason nobody in the scientific community (especially not here in the US) has shown the slightest bit of interest in funding that study.


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Old 03-18-2024, 11:49 PM   #34
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Maternal RSV Vaccine Trial Halted Early

New England Journal of Medicine | March 14, 2024
RSV Prefusion F Protein–Based Maternal Vaccine — Preterm Birth and Other Outcomes:
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.105...=featured_home

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Background Vaccination against respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) during pregnancy may protect infants from RSV disease. Efficacy and safety data on a candidate RSV prefusion F protein–based maternal vaccine (RSVPreF3-Mat) are needed.

Methods We conducted a phase 3 trial involving pregnant women 18 to 49 years of age to assess the efficacy and safety of RSVPreF3-Mat. The women were randomly assigned in a 2:1 ratio to receive RSVPreF3-Mat or placebo between 24 weeks 0 days and 34 weeks 0 days of gestation. The primary outcomes were any or severe medically assessed RSV-associated lower respiratory tract disease in infants from birth to 6 months of age and safety in infants from birth to 12 months of age. After the observation of a higher risk of preterm birth in the vaccine group than in the placebo group, enrollment and vaccination were stopped early, and exploratory analyses of the safety signal of preterm birth were performed.

Results The analyses included 5328 pregnant women and 5233 infants; the target enrollment of approximately 10,000 pregnant women and their infants was not reached because enrollment was stopped early. A total of 3426 infants in the vaccine group and 1711 infants in the placebo group were followed from birth to 6 months of age; 16 and 24 infants, respectively, had any medically assessed RSV-associated lower respiratory tract disease (vaccine efficacy, 65.5%; 95% credible interval, 37.5 to 82.0), and 8 and 14, respectively, had severe medically assessed RSV-associated lower respiratory tract disease (vaccine efficacy, 69.0%; 95% credible interval, 33.0 to 87.6). Preterm birth occurred in 6.8% of the infants (237 of 3494) in the vaccine group and in 4.9% of those (86 of 1739) in the placebo group (relative risk, 1.37; 95% confidence interval [CI], 1.08 to 1.74; P=0.01); neonatal death occurred in 0.4% (13 of 3494) and 0.2% (3 of 1739), respectively (relative risk, 2.16; 95% CI, 0.62 to 7.56; P=0.23), an imbalance probably attributable to the greater percentage of preterm births in the vaccine group. No other safety signal was observed.

Conclusions The results of this trial, in which enrollment was stopped early because of safety concerns, suggest that the risks of any and severe medically assessed RSV-associated lower respiratory tract disease among infants were lower with the candidate maternal RSV vaccine than with placebo but that the risk of preterm birth was higher with the candidate vaccine. (Funded by GlaxoSmithKline Biologicals; ClinicalTrials.gov number, NCT04605159.)

From the Results section:

Preterm Birth:
Vaccine Group: 237 of 3494 -- relative risk: 1.37X
Placebo Group: 86 of 1739

Neonatal Death:
Vaccine Group: 13 of 3494 -- relative risk: 2.16X
Placebo Group: 3 of 1739

Strange that the authors wrote the trial was halted over preterm births (1.37X) and not neonatal deaths (2.16X.)

My question would be why would anyone think it's a good idea to be vaccinating expectant mothers mid to late term?


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My question would be why would anyone think it's a good idea to be vaccinating expectant mothers mid to late term?


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Old 03-19-2024, 05:40 PM   #36
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I'm starting to worry they are messing around with mRNA vaccines that actually do shed and vaccinate other people you come into contact with. I know in the past I heard Bill Gates talk about that technology as something in the future, but Malone hinted that it already exists. These sick sociopaths will definitely release something like that without it being discussed publicly.
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I'm really hoping they have the common sense not to do that.

Some interesting charts from the St Louis Fed:

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A 45% spike in disability appeared in the labor statistics starting in January 2021.

Of course nobody has the slightest idea why.


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They'll blame COVID itself...of course...

They'll say LONG COVID! LMAO

A report came out not too long ago (not sure if you linked to it Jeff), that explained, basically, LONG COVID is a MYTH...and DOES NOT DIFFER from the lingering effects of the COMMON FLU we've known all these many years.
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Is this is the report?

by Kristina Sauerwein | 12-14-2023
Washington University School of Medicine St Louis
‘Long flu’ has emerged as a consequence similar to long COVID:
https://medicine.wustl.edu/news/long...long-covid-19/

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The new study comparing the viruses that cause COVID-19 and the flu also revealed that in the 18 months after infection, patients hospitalized for either COVID-19 or seasonal influenza faced an increased risk of death, hospital readmission, and health problems in many organ systems. Further, the time of highest risk was 30 days or later after initial infection.
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Regarding both viruses, patient vaccination status did not affect results. Those in the COVID-19 cohort were hospitalized during the pre-delta, delta and omicron eras.

Patients Hospitalized faced increased risk.

Patient vaccination status did not affect results.


Interesting Chart from page 5 of the State of Washington's most recent Breakthrough Cases update:
https://doh.wa.gov/sites/default/fil...oughReport.pdf

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The gray line running left to right across the chart shows 70% of Covid Hospitalizations for most of 2023 were fully vaccinated.

70% of Hospitalizations (not cases.)

But nobody has the slightest idea why disability spiked 45% in the Labor Statistics starting in January 2021.

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The Epoch Times | By Marina Zhang | 03-11-2024
COVID Vaccine Gene Could Integrate Into Human Cancer Cells: Researcher:
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What Mr. McKernan and his team have found contradicts the latest arguments from fact-checkers.
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Following his discovery of DNA contamination in COVID-19 mRNA vaccines, genomic researcher Kevin McKernan has recently found that the DNA in these vaccines can potentially integrate into human DNA.

The COVID-19 vaccine spike sequence was detected in two types of chromosomes in cancer cell lines following exposure to the COVID mRNA vaccine. Mr. McKernan’s findings, which he presents on his Substack blog, haven’t been peer-reviewed.

These are expected to be “rare events,” but they can happen, Mr. McKernan told The Epoch Times.

DNA Integration

Since the introduction of the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines, some members of the public have been concerned that the vaccines may modify the human gene by combining their sequences with the human genome.

“Fact-checkers” refuted this, saying mRNA cannot be changed into DNA. Yet Mr. McKernan’s earlier work shows that DNA in the vaccine vials may be capable of changing human DNA.

Ulrike Kämmerer, a professor of human biology at the University Hospital of Würzburg in Germany, conducted earlier stages of this research.

Exposing breast and ovarian human cancer cells to Pfizer and Moderna mRNA vaccines, Ms. Kämmerer found that about half of the cells expressed the COVID-19 spike protein on their cellular surface, indicating that they had absorbed the vaccines.

After this, he tested to see if any vaccine DNA combined with the cancer cell DNA, a process known as DNA integration. Integration is more of a concern in healthy cells than cancer cells since it disrupts cells’ genetic stability and integrity, increasing cancer risk.

However, because cancer cells already have unstable DNA, the effects of DNA
integration are less clear.

Currently, in biomedical research, most experiments are carried out in cancer cell lines as they are easier to obtain, experiment on, and maintain in the laboratory.

Mr. McKernan detected vaccine DNA sequences on two chromosomes in the cancer cell lines: chromosome 9 and chromosome 12. The sequencing machine detected both instances of integration twice. It is important to get two readings of the DNA integration to ensure the integration is not a result of misreading or random error, he added.

“The integration of ‘vaccine’ genetic information into the genome of cells was not such a surprise for me—more the confirmation of what we had to expect, unfortunately,” Dr. Kämmerer told The Epoch Times.

Mr. McKernan said it is unsurprising that integration was only detected on two chromosomes with two readings of each integration. This is because integration is rare, and the genes must be sequenced many times to get more sensitive results.

The current findings are still preliminary, Mr. McKernan said. More tests are also needed to determine whether DNA integration could be passed on to descendant cancer cells and whether this may affect cancer patients.

Also, since the test was conducted in cancer cells and not in healthy human cells, it does not suggest the same integration would occur in healthy human cells.

However, Hiroshi Arakawa, a researcher at the Institute of Molecular Oncology with a doctorate in molecular biology and immunology, wrote in his blog that “what happens in cultured cells can also occur in normal cells” after examining Mr. McKernan’s data.

His review of Mr. McKernan’s data also found signs of DNA integration at chromosomes 9 and 12.

“A wide variety of abnormalities can occur [in normal cells] depending on the site of genome integration,” Mr. Arakawa added.

Not Random Events

The two integration events into chromosome 9 occurred at the same place, as did the integration events into chromosome 12.

Mr. McKernan said that the odds of this occurring is one in 3 billion, highlighting that where the DNA integrates may not be random.

“There’s likely hotspots for this,” he told The Epoch Times, highlighting that in the human genome, jumping genes—short segments of DNA sequences—tend to “jump” into highly activated areas of DNA.

Highly activated DNA tends to play important roles in the human body.

The DNA integration into chromosome 12 occurred within the FAIM2 gene. Once activated, this gene creates a protein involved in programmed cell death. Since cancer cells evade cell death, the integration at chromosome 12 may be a survival-driven change.

Vaccine DNA Is Active in the Cells

Mr. McKernan believes vaccine DNA is highly active in cancer cells. His sequencing machine detected the DNA of cancer cells 30 times but detected spike DNA 3,000 times.

Not only did he detect much higher levels of vaccine DNA, but he also detected new variants in certain segments of the vaccine DNA.

These new DNA variations were not observed in unvaccinated cancer cells nor in the vaccine not exposed to the cancer cells.

Mr. McKernan believes that these new gene variants likely occurred because the cancer cell made copies of the vaccine DNA and created small errors.

What he and his team have found contradicts the latest arguments from fact-checkers claiming that the DNA from the mRNA vaccines cannot get into the cell, nor can it be active, he said.

DNA Contamination From mRNA Vaccine Manufacturing

DNA is present in the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines due to the manufacturing process.

This has been verified by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), Health Canada, and the European Medicines Agency.

DNA Integration. ✓

Vaccine DNA highly active in cancer cells. ✓

Detection of new variants in certain segments of the vaccine DNA. ✓

But not observed in unvaccinated cancer cells. ✓

DNA Contamination in the product verified by the FDA. ✓

Fact Checkers who said this was impossible. ✓



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Scary shit.

Thanks for posting
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