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06-20-2016, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by dilanesp
Chic Anderson didn't do justice to the 1973 Belmont?
Trevor Denman didn't do justice to the 2009 Breeders' Cup Classic?
Michael Wrona didn't do justice to the 1996 Arlington Citation Challenge?
Joe Hernandez didn't do justice to the 1940 Santa Anita Handicap?
Larry Collmus didn't do justice to the 2015 Belmont?
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Collmus, Wrona & Denman couldn't hold the guy who's holding Tom Durkin's jock strap.
I don't know who Joe Hernandes is as I was born in 1976, so sorry about that.
Durkin gives goosepumps. Denman is the guy with the "I'm scratching the blackboard with my 3 weeks of uncut nails voice".
Wrona is a weak product of Denman, enough said.
Collmus is a screamer with little of "IT".
You can't teach "IT".
Tom Durkin not only had "IT".
He created "IT".
He is the definition of "IT".
When you think of "IT", TOM DURKIN comes to mind.
You obviously don't get "IT"
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06-20-2016, 06:47 PM
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#197
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Originally Posted by johnhannibalsmith
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As things get heated, thank you JHB for letting some air into the room 
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06-20-2016, 06:52 PM
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Now THAT'S funny...thanks for the laugh.
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I know you're on the other coast (which was your choice) but, did you have the good fortune to hear a good number of his calls instead of maybe just a few because he was / is very good. I actually don't understand those that have criticized him other than they probably really don't know what a good and excellent race caller is supposed to do when calling a race. Durkin was good but I only heard him a couple hundred times. Stauffer and Denman with one following each other at different tracks was the best at least for me.
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06-20-2016, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by dilanesp
Indeed, if you really need Tom Durkin as a crutch to enjoy an exciting horse race, I really question your devotion to the sport.
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Lighten up Francis.
Not that i need to explain anything to you, but I've been going to the races at Keeneland regularly since 1983, so I don't need an announcer PERIOD to enjoy the sport.
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06-20-2016, 08:21 PM
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howard oil - the king of monticello since 1984!!!!
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06-20-2016, 11:02 PM
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Like I've always said, Durkin is #1 and there is no #2.
Not to knock Collmus, who is good, but a little too bland for my taste when it comes to replacing Tom Durkin. Which is virtually impossible.
I'm surprised that John G. Dooley didn't get the NYRA job actually, since NYRA was basically home to him and Collmus just got the Churchill job replacing Mark Johnson. Even a stranger one to me is Robert Geller taking over for Dan Loiselle at Woodbine. Again, Geller is a very good announcer. But to me, Loiselle and Frank Salive on the harness side were Woodbine.
But overall, the vast majority of announcers are good to very good at what they do.
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06-20-2016, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by dilanesp
Chic Anderson didn't do justice to the 1973 Belmont?
Trevor Denman didn't do justice to the 2009 Breeders' Cup Classic?
Michael Wrona didn't do justice to the 1996 Arlington Citation Challenge?
Joe Hernandez didn't do justice to the 1940 Santa Anita Handicap?
Larry Collmus didn't do justice to the 2015 Belmont?
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Answering in order: Chic's call was bland until the final 3/8ths. Was OK, but should have been spectacular for the occasion.
Other than calling her Zenyatar most of the race, Denman's call was decent, Wrona's always a disaster. The problem with this duo is that you can't understand them half the time, especially Wrona with his his wild metaphors.
I've heard clips of Hernandez, but he's quite a bit down any list.
Collmus is a screamer, but he's decent and improving.
Final analysis: There's Tom Durkin at the top, then there are the others.
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06-20-2016, 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by djm1959
howard oil - the king of monticello since 1984!!!!
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I remember him back in the days of Roosevelt Raceway, practicing a few minutes before the race in the Grandstand, he would call the race looking at his program. A crowd would gather around in a circle around him. No surprise he went on to a long career as a race caller.
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06-20-2016, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by EMD4ME
Collmus, Wrona & Denman couldn't hold the guy who's holding Tom Durkin's jock strap.
I don't know who Joe Hernandes is as I was born in 1976, so sorry about that.
Durkin gives goosepumps. Denman is the guy with the "I'm scratching the blackboard with my 3 weeks of uncut nails voice".
Wrona is a weak product of Denman, enough said.
Collmus is a screamer with little of "IT".
You can't teach "IT".
Tom Durkin not only had "IT".
He created "IT".
He is the definition of "IT".
When you think of "IT", TOM DURKIN comes to mind.
You obviously don't get "IT"
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Funny - I thought Durkin always emulated Cassidy a bit.
Anyone who has heard the call of the 1989 Belmont will know what I mean.
In mid stretch Cassidy says in a low and different voice, "Sunday Silence remains in 2nd"...I've heard Durkin copy that many times.
That call is my favorite of all time
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06-20-2016, 11:31 PM
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NoPoints4ME
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Originally Posted by PhantomOnTour
Funny - I thought Durkin always emulated Cassidy a bit.
Anyone who has heard the call of the 1989 Belmont will know what I mean.
In mid stretch Cassidy says in a low and different voice, "Sunday Silence remains in 2nd"...I've heard Durkin copy that many times.
That call is my favorite of all time
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I vividly remember that uncharacteristic amazing/outlandish out of body experience for Marshall 
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06-20-2016, 11:36 PM
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I vividly remember that uncharacteristic amazing/outlandish out of body experience for Marshall |
Durkin did it often...dropping and changing his voice
And by the way, I agree with you...the lady at Golden Gate is not good.
Period - there's just no defending her.
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06-20-2016, 11:57 PM
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Pace Cappa
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Since we are talking race callers, what did you guys think of the Royal Ascot caller ? I thought his calls were pretty good. 
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06-21-2016, 01:03 AM
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NoPoints4ME
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Originally Posted by PhantomOnTour
Durkin did it often...dropping and changing his voice
And by the way, I agree with you...the lady at Golden Gate is not good.
Period - there's just no defending her.
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I don't know Phantom. My gut can't sit here and believe the super talented had to copy Marshall in his fluctuation of voice.
That's like saying I copied you as someone watches me breathe. We all breathe, we all (except for the guy from the red eyes commercial) fluctuate our tone.
For Marshall, that was out of character and an indication of something awesome/disappointing for some was happening.
For Tom, it was race calling 101.
At least IMHO.
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06-21-2016, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by PhantomOnTour
Funny - I thought Durkin always emulated Cassidy a bit.
Anyone who has heard the call of the 1989 Belmont will know what I mean.
In mid stretch Cassidy says in a low and different voice, "Sunday Silence remains in 2nd"...I've heard Durkin copy that many times.
That call is my favorite of all time
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A lot of people out here (i.e., Sunday Silence fans) liked that call. It even got written about in the local newspapers.
"New York's Easy Goer in front!" was absolutely perfect, really, given the entire context of the race and the rivalry.
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06-22-2016, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by whodoyoulike
I know you're on the other coast (which was your choice) but, did you have the good fortune to hear a good number of his calls instead of maybe just a few because he was / is very good. I actually don't understand those that have criticized him other than they probably really don't know what a good and excellent race caller is supposed to do when calling a race. Durkin was good but I only heard him a couple hundred times. Stauffer and Denman with one following each other at different tracks was the best at least for me.
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I have never once said Vic wasn't a very good announcer. I always liked him as an announcer.
And do you know WHY I like him as an announcer? Because it's quite obvious that Durkin influences him.
So for someone to say Stauffer is better than Durkin, it made me laugh because I considered Vic to be sort of a west-coast clone of Durkin. Again, not a criticism. But definitely not better.
I doubt very much even Vic himself would ever claim to be a better announcer than Durkin. He's not that misguided...
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