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Old 04-10-2022, 01:03 PM   #1
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That Was Fast!!

If what I'm hearing is correct and there's no reason to believe otherwise, both Classic Causeway and Forbidden Kingdom not going to Louisville.

Pace just got a helluva lot slower.
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Old 04-10-2022, 01:30 PM   #2
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If what I'm hearing is correct and there's no reason to believe otherwise, both Classic Causeway and Forbidden Kingdom not going to Louisville.

Pace just got a helluva lot slower.
Blue Grass frontrunner Emmanuel also appears out; targeting a turf race

Early Voting also not definite (but will probably stay in if there is no pace?)
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Old 04-10-2022, 02:35 PM   #3
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It’s probably the right move. Those two were no where. And I wouldn’t be surprised about Early Voting either. Browns other horse Zandon was probably the most impressive of the day. Large field , powered down the stretch like a good thing. He sort of laughed off that field. The Blue Grass may produce , cause that horse looked dead nuts and he can barrel through . The pace wasn’t particularly hot and he still kicked on.

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Old 04-10-2022, 03:45 PM   #4
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Morello - who suffered a cut at the gate and threw a shoe during the race is a wait and see, possible pace factor.
Un Ojo - who suffered cuts and stitches , owners want to run. Will rest and train up to derby.
Tawny Port - owners want to run, may try Lexington to earn enough points to move up. If Classic and Forbidden withdraw , they may pass on the Lex.
Then there are the 2 horses that ran in Dubai - if they are coming.
4 weeks out and still a lot of questions to be answered but the owner of Taiba, who also owned Medina Spirit by the way, is probably itching to run.
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Old 04-12-2022, 10:56 PM   #5
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Morello - who suffered a cut at the gate and threw a shoe during the race is a wait and see, possible pace factor.

Where did you read about the cut and shoe?


I have mixed feelings about him. On the one hand I question whether the Gotham was as good as the Beyer figure but I felt confident throwing out his Wood for several reasons even before your note. Not that I think he should go to the Derby, but I think he can bounce back with a much better effort next time.
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Old 04-13-2022, 01:41 PM   #6
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I hope they do not run him.
I was high on him, he was the favorite for the wood.
Just picked a bad time to have a bad day at the office.
He will be 30-1 or higher if he goes.
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Old 04-13-2022, 04:34 PM   #7
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Forbidden Kingdom is a sprinter.

I will be very interested in using him in the Breeders' Cup Sprint this fall.
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Old 04-14-2022, 07:29 PM   #8
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Class - I know that I read Lezcano say there was blood on the left hind leg from a cut on DRF but can't remember where I read the the statement about the tossed shoe. I believe it was from Asmussen. I had searched several sites to try to find out if there was a reason Morello ran so bad. If I can find it again I'll let you know.
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Old 04-14-2022, 09:38 PM   #9
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FYI

It’s confirmed stitches and a lost shoe.
My source was on site.
My issue is I loved this horse. Then he throws in a clunker.
If I toss him Derby day and he beats me in a tri or super I’m gonna be annoyed.
Head games
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Old 04-14-2022, 11:18 PM   #10
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FYI

It’s confirmed stitches and a lost shoe.
My source was on site.
My issue is I loved this horse. Then he throws in a clunker.
If I toss him Derby day and he beats me in a tri or super I’m gonna be annoyed.
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Good luck if you bet him
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If I toss him Derby day and he beats me in a tri or super I’m gonna be annoyed.
Head games
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We all have little biases that we are aware of or sometimes not aware of. When I like a horse a lot, make a big bet, and he loses with even the smallest of excuses, I tend to give them another chance or two. It doesn’t usually pay off for me unless it was a major excuse.
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Old 04-24-2022, 02:21 PM   #12
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Morello out. That puts Pioneer of Medina in should the connection want to go. I'd think PoM is probably a better Preakness option.
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