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03-06-2012, 09:35 AM
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Gee whiz. Finishing T2 with a final round of 62 seems pretty good to me.
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Nobody is saying it wasn't a great round. However, shooting a 62 while starting early and not really contending is a lot different than doing it while in one of the final groups and battling for the win. It is certainly a good sign, but he has shot good rounds before in this "comeback".
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03-06-2012, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by cj
Tiger's biggest weapon was his mental toughness and feeling of being invincible. All that was shattered on that November evening a few years ago. Now nobody is intimidated by him, on the course or off.
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Especially the sportswriters and media who would have never asked him questions 5 years ago that they do today with no hesitation.
It's a completely different era toda. FDR was able to hide the fact he was in a wheelchair and Kennedy his affairs. With a minimum of one camera and video recorder in many's possession most times scruntiny is and will stay at an all time high. Tiger doesn't handle that well especially in the long term.
Also these young guns are in a different era as far as intimidation goes. They grew up in a youtube era and it hardly affects them. McElroy was shown on tv yesterday doing this. How many times has Tiger declined interviews even directly after a tournament he lost.
http://msn.foxsports.com/tennis/gall...photo=30756444
He doesn't mind the media attention that's a huge positive in any pro sport.
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03-06-2012, 01:23 PM
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More grist
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03-06-2012, 11:52 PM
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He has faced it a few times already this year and come up woefully short.
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Yes...he has come up short a few times. Phil stepped on him pretty good at Pebble on Sunday. Phil made every putt he looked at and Tiger missed a ridiculous amount of short putts...and who can forget his beat down at the hands of the great Robert Rock? All I'm saying is I hope he gets back to form for the simple reason that I would love to see some battles between him, Rory, Phil,et al. Especially at the majors. Let's see if that final round is the kickstart for him.
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03-07-2012, 09:44 AM
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The younger pups are also just as good at hitting the ball, and many outdrive him...with a 3 wood.
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CJ, is the above true? I watched a little this weekend and saw him drive the ball 320 yards.
I always felt his big edge was his length - that edge no longer exists.
I also think the years he has spent swinging a club has caught up with him. The nagging injuries have changed his swing for the worst, limited his practice time which has affected his consistancy, which has affected his mental toughness.
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03-07-2012, 10:57 AM
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CJ, is the above true? I watched a little this weekend and saw him drive the ball 320 yards.
I always felt his big edge was his length - that edge no longer exists.
I also think the years he has spent swinging a club has caught up with him. The nagging injuries have changed his swing for the worst, limited his practice time which has affected his consistancy, which has affected his mental toughness.
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There are plenty of guys that outhit him now. More importantly, they are the good players, not just a few bombers that aren't great golfers. He has gotten some of his length back lately, but still, it isn't the weapon for him that it was.
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03-07-2012, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by cj
There are plenty of guys that outhit him now. More importantly, they are the good players, not just a few bombers that aren't great golfers. He has gotten some of his length back lately, but still, it isn't the weapon for him that it was.
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His long drives was really a small part of his success. It was much more what he did following his drives. He was lethal with his putter and it is that more than anything that has hurt him in the past few years.
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03-07-2012, 12:31 PM
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His long drives was really a small part of his success. It was much more what he did following his drives. He was lethal with his putter and it is that more than anything that has hurt him in the past few years.
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They didn't change the layout of Augusta and add rough because Tiger was a great putter.
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03-07-2012, 06:27 PM
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They didn't change the layout of Augusta and add rough because Tiger was a great putter.
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Ask any of the greats that went into a drought what the culprit was and most will say it was their putter.
Getting on the green on a par 5 in 2 is good, 3 putting makes you no better than the guy behind you. That's not rocket science.
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03-07-2012, 07:28 PM
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They didn't change the layout of Augusta and add rough because Tiger was a great putter.
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They didn't exactly change the layout...they moved some tee boxes and as you said added rough...the basic layout remained unchanged. They did that because Woods was bombing drives around doglegs and hitting into par 5's with short irons, however I gotta agree with Marshall...his putting has been his biggest obstacle...the latest swing change took awhile to get together, but once he starts putting well...it should be fun to watch all these guys go at it.
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03-07-2012, 07:37 PM
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Ask any of the greats that went into a drought what the culprit was and most will say it was their putter.
Getting on the green on a par 5 in 2 is good, 3 putting makes you no better than the guy behind you. That's not rocket science.
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That is all true. It also doesn't have a thing to do with what I posted about Augusta. Tiger certainly had a big distance advantage over his competition.
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03-08-2012, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by cj
There are plenty of guys that outhit him now. More importantly, they are the good players, not just a few bombers that aren't great golfers. He has gotten some of his length back lately, but still, it isn't the weapon for him that it was.
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Tiger was ranked #1 in driving distance last weekend.
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03-08-2012, 11:05 PM
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Nobody is saying it wasn't a great round. However, shooting a 62 while starting early and not really contending is a lot different than doing it while in one of the final groups and battling for the win. It is certainly a good sign, but he has shot good rounds before in this "comeback".
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I've never seen Tiger rally like that. He's the best at protecting a lead but this is uncommon behavior. If this were a horse race, as his trainer I couldn't wait to run him back. I say he's poised to win the Masters and if I can get a price I'll bet him.
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03-10-2012, 11:46 AM
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"A lion will not cheat on his wife, but a Tiger Wood!"
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03-10-2012, 11:54 AM
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Ya, ya, we've been all over that already. Sorry, but I'm not interested in that subject any more.
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