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07-05-2018, 12:35 AM
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"Abolish ICE" movement is a gift to Trump and GOP
https://www.washingtonpost.com/ampht...on=truehttp://
I completely agree with this article. The abolish ICE movement is going to be used by Trump effectively over the next few years, and the Democrats will double down and push harder anyway because they hate Trump that much.
As the article states, even the great liberal hero Bernie Sanders is hesistant to abolish ICE because he knows they cannot win on this topic.
We will get 8 years of Trump thanks to this!
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07-05-2018, 12:51 AM
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Most interesting article and position. Makes a lot of sense.
As the two sides get farther apart, both must be careful to not become so radical as to alienate the less-than-extreme from their own parties.
With the country so evenly divided, I would guess that the moderates will determine the final outcomes.
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07-05-2018, 07:38 AM
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07-05-2018, 07:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by letswastemoney
https://www.washingtonpost.com/ampht...on=truehttp://
I completely agree with this article. The abolish ICE movement is going to be used by Trump effectively over the next few years, and the Democrats will double down and push harder anyway because they hate Trump that much.
As the article states, even the great liberal hero Bernie Sanders is hesistant to abolish ICE because he knows they cannot win on this topic.
We will get 8 years of Trump thanks to this!
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Today is July 5, 2018
The max for Trump is January 20, 2025. Hence max for trump is 6.5 years.
He's already wasted 1.5 on silly stuff (wall, Obamacare repeal, Muslim bans, anti immigration stuff, drain the swamp stuff, Get rid of the senate filibuster stuff, NFL kneeling stuff, Putin a great guy stuff, Trade wars stuff. all wasted time)
Allan
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07-05-2018, 08:02 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by biggestal99
Today is July 5, 2018
The max for Trump is January 20, 2025. Hence max for trump is 6.5 years.
He's already wasted 1.5 on silly stuff (wall, Obamacare repeal, Muslim bans, anti immigration stuff, drain the swamp stuff, Get rid of the senate filibuster stuff, NFL kneeling stuff, Putin a great guy stuff, Trade wars stuff. all wasted time)
Allan
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Wear rose colored glasses much.
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07-05-2018, 09:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by biggestal99
Today is July 5, 2018
The max for Trump is January 20, 2025. Hence max for trump is 6.5 years.
He's already wasted 1.5 on silly stuff (wall, Obamacare repeal, Muslim bans, anti immigration stuff, drain the swamp stuff, Get rid of the senate filibuster stuff, NFL kneeling stuff, Putin a great guy stuff, Trade wars stuff. all wasted time)
Allan
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Hmm...
Must have been watching CNN again. These are all "talking points" and not things he is "wasting" time on.
Next time, try and be more original.
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07-05-2018, 10:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by upthecreek
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It's working already. I think even people who support illegal immigration know the anti-ICE movement is bad for them.
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07-05-2018, 10:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by biggestal99
He's already wasted 1.5 on silly stuff (wall, Obamacare repeal, Muslim bans, anti immigration stuff, drain the swamp stuff, Get rid of the senate filibuster stuff, NFL kneeling stuff, Putin a great guy stuff, Trade wars stuff. all wasted time)
Allan
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A big reason Trump was voted in was to fight illegal immigration, so that ain't a waste. And he will use this topic again in 2020 effectively.
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07-05-2018, 11:07 AM
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Completely moronic move on the part of Dems - snatched defeat from the jaws of victory (weren't happy just underscoring the incompetence/lack of planning related to Trump's zero tolerance policy).
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07-05-2018, 11:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wisconsin
Hmm...
Must have been watching CNN again. These are all "talking points" and not things he is "wasting" time on.
Next time, try and be more original.
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Um.. what?
All those things were and are a lot more than talking points. They're actual Trump admin orders, efforts, and actions.
Next time, try and have a clue.
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07-05-2018, 11:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by biggestal99
Today is July 5, 2018
The max for Trump is January 20, 2025. Hence max for trump is 6.5 years.
He's already wasted 1.5 on silly stuff (wall, Obamacare repeal, Muslim bans, anti immigration stuff, drain the swamp stuff, Get rid of the senate filibuster stuff, NFL kneeling stuff, Putin a great guy stuff, Trade wars stuff. all wasted time)
Allan
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More take home pay in their paycheck stuff....
Ya, the silly stuff. Great point .
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07-05-2018, 12:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FantasticDan
Um.. what?
All those things were and are a lot more than talking points. They're actual Trump admin orders, efforts, and actions.
Next time, try and have a clue.
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Yeah, outside of the wall and repealing Obamacare, which ones is he really "wasting" time on?
Tell me about his "Muslim Ban" and then tell me about his "drain the swamp" order, and his NFL bill or order or whatever you guys think it is, and please tell me about his new "anti-immigration law", which should be good to learn about. Like I said, talking points.
I have a clue, thanks for your input though.
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07-05-2018, 02:00 PM
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07-05-2018, 02:16 PM
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Like these 60 accomplishments?
Quote:
Originally Posted by biggestal99
Today is July 5, 2018
The max for Trump is January 20, 2025. Hence max for trump is 6.5 years.
He's already wasted 1.5 on silly stuff (wall, Obamacare repeal, Muslim bans, anti immigration stuff, drain the swamp stuff, Get rid of the senate filibuster stuff, NFL kneeling stuff, Putin a great guy stuff, Trade wars stuff. all wasted time)
Allan
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/w...ican-greatness
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07-05-2018, 04:14 PM
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DJT reversed anti white Obammy AA college edicts last week. Pretty damn great to me. Non left wing SC appoints also is awesome.
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