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06-15-2018, 02:36 PM
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You totally shot yourself in the foot there telling us about all the horrible accidents that happened under your watch. Also as you do, you twist people's words and pass on lies. I never said shop accidents never happen, I said no one under my watch needed more than a band aid, including myself. Is there anyway you can stop lying and making crap up?
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I said I saw accidents. I never told you how many over what period of time. You bullshitted it was my fault you bragging p.o.s.
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06-15-2018, 02:40 PM
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Because the world is pure. You just educated me.
Distraught FBI agents with the power to shape the future the way they desire would never resort to such activity...well...because they're FBI agents dag nab it.
What are we, living in the 1950s again? Are you looking forward to the return of Jim Crow laws?
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Do you know how to spell comrade in Russian?
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06-15-2018, 02:45 PM
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A twitter conversation?
Sorry this is not evidence. Wanting to destroy Trump is no worse than wanting to destroy Obama.
I am aware of intel people who do hate Trump.
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So show us one tweet... one email... one something that is on par with this... against Obama. Just one will do from the FBI.. CIA... DOJ... mind you none of us will be holding our breath.
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06-15-2018, 02:51 PM
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I said I saw accidents. I never told you how many over what period of time. You bullshitted it was my fault you bragging p.o.s.
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You said you saw horrible accidents happen to people you SUPERVISED. I am not bragging, I have always run a tight ship when it comes to safety in my almost 20 years working for the man and over 20 years working for my self. I am lenient on many things, but on safety I am a hard ass.
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06-15-2018, 03:13 PM
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Are we reading the same report?
Because I've posted what's in it. What the findings were.
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Yes, we're reading the same report and evaluating all the available evidence. But we're coming to different conclusions.
You, apparently, buy the report's conclusion. I do not. Not with the evidence that has been shown to us.
Some people believe the sky is made of cotton candy. I didn't think you were one of them.
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06-15-2018, 03:55 PM
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You, apparently, buy the report's conclusion. I do not. Not with the evidence that has been shown to us.
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The purpose of the report was to determine whether bias affected investigations.
It concluded it did not.
You guys are great... was Horowitz bought off by the deep state too?
Trump supporters: "Just wait until the IG report comes out!"
It comes out.
Trump supporters: "The conclusion is wrong!"
I literally quoted the report a lot of people hung their argument on.
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06-15-2018, 03:58 PM
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I never once hung any argument on this report. Only a fool would do that.
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06-15-2018, 04:00 PM
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The purpose of the report was to determine whether bias affected investigations.
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I know and it certainly showed the investigators weren't biased at all, nor were their assistants or any of their colleagues.
Oh wait...I believe the report showed just the opposite. But then goes on to conclude that the FBI is full of such upstanding individuals that bias never played a factor in anything they did.. And whomever wrote that conclusion somehow was looking over these people's shoulders every minute of their work day so they can be more than positive that bias never played a role.
Yeah. Right. How can you be so gullible when you are shown exactly what these people are thinking in unguarded moments?
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06-15-2018, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
But the memo concluded that bias didn't impact their work... recommended future political bias training.
Which kinda goes to the heart of the issue doesn't it?
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No, it doesn't.
If it din;t impact their work what are they going to train train?
Of COURSE it impacted their work.
I spent 42 years dealing with investigating problems and identifying the root causes.
Reports are for facts, NOT opinions.
Conclusions are for talk show panels, not reports.
One of the conclusion of this report was that more training was needed.
Why? If nothing happened, why do they need more training?
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06-15-2018, 04:26 PM
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I know and it certainly showed the investigators weren't biased at all, nor were their assistants or any of their colleagues.
Oh wait...I believe the report showed just the opposite. But then goes on to conclude that the FBI is full of such upstanding individuals that bias never played a factor in anything they did.. And whomever wrote that conclusion somehow was looking over these people's shoulders every minute of their work day so they can be more than positive that bias never played a role.
Yeah. Right. How can you be so gullible when you are shown exactly what these people are thinking in unguarded moments?
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Well obviously they consulted Mostie... he has the ability to discern what people really thought and ment thru reading posted text... he's shown that clarvoint act here many times over the years... and he was a mailman.
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06-15-2018, 04:32 PM
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This should be remembered more......
"You are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts." ....Daniel Patrick Moynihan
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This is true.
The author of the report is entitled to state the facts, but not his opinion.
Thank you for agreeing with me. The only things in it are facts.
See post #1 in this thread for some "facts." If you say there is no evidence of bias at the FBI, you are lying or incredibly naive.
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06-15-2018, 04:33 PM
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I'm having trouble with all the emphasis on this also. Replace 'FBI agent' with 'police officer' and make it about a pair of rogue, racist cops involved in some nonsense and surely most of these same people wouldn't scream about how the entire force is racist and none of them are any good at all.
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Whoa!
Now that is a good point!
ANY time one bad cops does something, we get lambasted here from the left about how cops are biased and murderers.
Except now.
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06-15-2018, 04:37 PM
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Is there anyway you can stop lying and making crap up?
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Let me know......
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06-15-2018, 04:47 PM
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A twitter conversation?
Sorry this is not evidence. Wanting to destroy Trump is no worse than wanting to destroy Obama.
I am aware of intel people who do hate Trump.
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You still don't get it.
Not a clue.
This is NOT about destroying 0bama or Trump.
It is about destroying our justice system.
Intel people can like and dislike whoever they want to.
The point is, they have no right to act on those feelings.
Remember, the FBI has a long history of being a political tool box, spying on people for the benefit of it's POS first director, J Edgar Heaver. That scumbag was not in way shape or form an American. He was a lying SOS who spied on or presidents, our congress, our citizens, MLK for one, trying to impeded civil rights.
He used that intel to blackmail.
So when that jerk-rod yesterday is up there talking about how great the FBI is, I have to
Not only has the FBI been nothing but an evil institution, worthy of the KGB's admiration it totally missed 9/11, so crap on their great effectiveness.
I see the exact same FBI today as we had all along.
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06-15-2018, 04:48 PM
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If I am not mistaken, this report was about the handling of the email issue and any conclusion would be about that. The conclusion itself contradicts itself in a few spo5s, and I doubt any of us actually read the report , and are just spouting the conclusion of whatever talking head we listen to. If there wasn’t any bias then they must all be the purest people around.
Will certainly take a few days before anyone out there actually reads the report. I am sure Schumer will go thru it with a fine tooth comb. (Not)
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