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10-12-2020, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by sammy the sage
Well...I've had several customers....over 50 yrs' of age....tell me....they've NEVER voted in their entire lives....but just registered to vote FOR Trump....no one has said that about Biden....
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I just had a guy in his late 60’s who told me the exact same thing except he’s voting for Biden and I’m thinking...
What a worthless piece of ****. Democracy can do without people like him.
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10-12-2020, 10:30 PM
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#917
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: central fla.
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Originally Posted by TJDave
I just had a guy in his late 60’s who told me the exact same thing except he’s voting for Biden and I’m thinking...
What a worthless piece of ****. Democracy can do without people like him.
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Well...I tell people who don't vote...(and there are many)...you get what you practice...SHIT....you got no say so don't bitch and shut up...
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10-12-2020, 10:33 PM
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#918
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: central fla.
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Anyone who honestly believes Trump is going to win needs to step back and look at the data.
Anecdotes are just that.
My neighborhood right now is 7 to 6 with Biden to Trump signs. (I don't do signs so the margin would be bigger) My neighborhood is also staunchly Republican. Does this mean Biden is going to win?
Hell no... Clinton lost this area by 40+.
Biden will lose as well but if he only loses by 20 or 30... that flips the state.
Meanwhile we have people like Cortes blathering on how polls are "oversampling" democrats when if we break down the polls we'd see the exact opposite is true and the GOP, not the Democrats, is actually being slightly oversampled.
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So you believe EVERYTHING the media tells you....regardless of topic?...seriously...
I don't know who's going to win...but it's a TOTAL coin flip...
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10-12-2020, 10:45 PM
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#919
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Just another Facist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Now in Houston
Posts: 52,790
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10-13-2020, 12:27 AM
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#920
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Originally Posted by sammy the sage
So you believe EVERYTHING the media tells you....regardless of topic?...seriously...
I don't know who's going to win...but it's a TOTAL coin flip...
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I don’t need the media to tell me anything.
I can look at the data of the NYT/Sienna poll and realize its oversampling Republicans by a point or two. That's why pollsters have MOEs. Its possible Trump is doing better than they suggest but its actually more likely Biden is a hair better.
From that I can glean that Trump is in deep deep shit at the moment and everyday that ticks by is lost opportunity cost to make up ground.
Furthermore, I don't need the media to tell me Trump rolled snake eyes squeaking past a terrible candidate in Clinton. That happened. Since then Trump has NEVER had a above water approval rating in his entire presidency so is it more or less likely he's shed voters since 2016?
At the end of the day pollsters want to be right and that's why even typically R slanted pollsters like Rasmussen, IDB, and Trafalgar are sprinting to join their contemporaries in their assessment of the race right now.
This race isn't close... at all... it will likely tighten a bit but for Trump to have a chance it needs to tighten a LOT.
Still possible but time is definitely running out.
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10-13-2020, 02:40 AM
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#921
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Behind the Pine Curtain
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Clinton was a terrible opponent. Biden today didn't know what office he is running for, couldn't remember Mitt Romney's name. He's worse than Clinton
You can either believe polls that call 600 people. or you can use your eyes and see the rallies of the 2 candidates. Trump draws thousands, and their excitement is real. Biden's? Looks worse than Clinton's rallies.
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10-13-2020, 02:55 AM
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#922
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Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 22,647
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
I don’t need the media to tell me anything.
I can look at the data of the NYT/Sienna poll and realize its oversampling Republicans by a point or two. That's why pollsters have MOEs. Its possible Trump is doing better than they suggest but its actually more likely Biden is a hair better.
From that I can glean that Trump is in deep deep shit at the moment and everyday that ticks by is lost opportunity cost to make up ground.
Furthermore, I don't need the media to tell me Trump rolled snake eyes squeaking past a terrible candidate in Clinton. That happened. Since then Trump has NEVER had a above water approval rating in his entire presidency so is it more or less likely he's shed voters since 2016?
At the end of the day pollsters want to be right and that's why even typically R slanted pollsters like Rasmussen, IDB, and Trafalgar are sprinting to join their contemporaries in their assessment of the race right now.
This race isn't close... at all... it will likely tighten a bit but for Trump to have a chance it needs to tighten a LOT.
Still possible but time is definitely running out.
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well, you can't argue with scientific data 
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10-13-2020, 04:01 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 30,398
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Originally Posted by ElKabong
He's not.
Mystery solved, off you go.
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Rea what I posted. He is chasing the senior vote.
Or why spend his shrinking bankroll. Snap out of it.
Off go both of you
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10-13-2020, 06:54 AM
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#925
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Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 4,520
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Betfair next president market
Biden 1.49
Trump 3.05
Allan
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10-13-2020, 07:03 AM
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#926
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Veteran
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: totonto
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 all these are fake news sites ....just like in 2016...
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10-13-2020, 09:38 AM
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
Posts: 88,624
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one would think...the "fake news" would be the race is TIGHT...thereby encouraging Biden voters to actually VOTE...
if they keep hearing how Joe's gonna win in a blowout...they might not bother...it's a lock...why go through the hassle??
that was part of the problem in 2016.
so I say...keep saying joe's gonna win in a blowout
in fact, here, let me help.
JOE IS UP BY 20...game over
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10-13-2020, 09:51 AM
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#928
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Boston+Ocala
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
one would think...the "fake news" would be the race is TIGHT...thereby encouraging Biden voters to actually VOTE...
if they keep hearing how Joe's gonna win in a blowout...they might not bother...it's a lock...why go through the hassle??
that was part of the problem in 2016.
so I say...keep saying joe's gonna win in a blowout
in fact, here, let me help.
JOE IS UP BY 20...game over
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this election is a lot tighter than the polls suggest.. overnight the line swung 30 cents in favor of Trump. i suspect that might have something to do with court rulings which favor Trump in both Pennsylvania and Texas regarding drop boxes and proper signatures for mail in ballots.. many believe that mail in votes favor democratic candidates (i am not so sure of this) but that is how it is perceived. be that as it is, in Texas there is only 1 drop box in all of Harris county which happens to be a stronger country for democrats.. however those people can still drop their ballots in the mailbox and that should reach the election officials on time. the fact that there is only 1 drop box is perfectly legal, they can have as many or as few as they want.
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10-13-2020, 10:03 AM
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#929
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
Posts: 88,624
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They should put drop boxes in front of every single home and apartment in the USA
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10-13-2020, 10:18 AM
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#930
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 14,036
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
one would think...the "fake news" would be the race is TIGHT...thereby encouraging Biden voters to actually VOTE...
if they keep hearing how Joe's gonna win in a blowout...they might not bother...it's a lock...why go through the hassle??
that was part of the problem in 2016.
so I say...keep saying joe's gonna win in a blowout
in fact, here, let me help.
JOE IS UP BY 20...game over
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I'll agree that the media is playing the race closer than it actually is. However, given the shock of 2016 which wasn't nearly as one-sided as this I don't know how you blame them.
In 2016 we had a education gap among whites amd it was a systemic polling error that benefited Trump by about 3 points in the rust belt. That particular error won't occur this time but even if a similar one favoring Trump were to occur right now.... Biden still wins quite comfortably.
A lot can change in 3 weeks but people are already voting so... time is running out and this race isn't close right now.
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