Tom states “Libby never obstructed justice.” Sorry Tom – a jury disagreed with you. He was convicted.
Steve “StatMan” states “I'm not keen on the imprisioned Border Guard situation.” Pretty much says it all. Blind eye to two guys doing eleven and twelve years respectively for trying to do their job but you’re gung ho to release a convicted felon who is the nubmer one guy to the WH. Unbeleivable. A jury got Libby, and a Bush appointed judge and Bush’s justice department. There wasn’t a dem involved in the proceedings.
As to Steve the Stat Man’s contention the media and dem;s argued for fewer troops early, you need to go back and read Rumsfeld’s statements against the advice of General Shinseki for “increased troop levels”.
http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/04/...a/military.php
“Fifth retired general calls for Rumsfeld's resignation”
As to Isbets questioning my reference to Schafly, I do so because it indicates just how out of touch this guy is even with the staunchest of conservatives. If I put up a Michael Moore quote I’m sure you’d give that more credence.
And to PA, I didn’t know Phyllis Schafly and Glen Beck were part of the DNC.
Yes, even right wing nutcase Glen Beck gets it in the Libby commutation and eventual pardon.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../03/gb.01.html
From his 07/03/07 transcipt show:
“But more to the point, Scooter Libby may have lived his life in Washington and the life of a Washington elite. But he committed a lowly crime, lying like a kid, blaming his dog for eating his homework.
Libby was tried for his crime. And a jury of his peers said he should go and do the time. But his life of privilege and entitlement got him a real-life "get out of jail free" card.
After President Bush made his decision behind the closed doors of the Oval Office, he issued this following statement, quote, "I respect the jury`s verdict. But I have concluded that the prison sentence given to Mr. Libby is excessive." Really? Wow, that`s great.
Let me ask you this, Mr. President. If I or any other American had been given the same sentence for the same crime, would you have been so quick to get out a big presidential eraser and erase my jail time? I don`t think so.
And by the way, if you truly understand what an excessive sentence is, you should be taking a look at that 11-year prison term handed out for our border agents Ramos and Compean. Oh, wait -- no, hang on. You still refuse to get involved in those cases.
By undermining the judicial process, you have confirmed our worst fears about the beltway boys club yet again. The -- it`s really all about who you know. That`s what gets you off the hook for what you did. “
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BECK: You know, I have to tell you. I am -- I`m -- I`m so disillusioned with really -- quite honestly, a lot of my own fellow Americans and fellow conservatives who were screaming that it doesn`t matter.
BECK: I don`t care. I don`t care. I mean, Mike, do you think the average person cares? When these politicians say things like that, do you think they care?
I don`t care if the Clinton administration was setting everybody on fire. It was wrong then; it`s wrong now. Stop trying to say that the other side did it, so what`s the big deal?
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As to the Border Guards Jr references, here are just a few quotes from this board when it emerged and GW had no time to review that one - hypocrite:
“Persecuted because they were doing their F***ing jobs -- two U.S. Border agents who were convicted and sentenced to 11 and 12 year prison terms for shooting a Mexican drug smuggler who had crossed our border illegally with nearly 740lbs. of marijuana and physically assaulted one of the agents. – Bala”
“God help this country when a Mexican drug runner, caught red-handed with hundreds of kilos of drugs, is found to have a better standing before the law than those we employee to enforce the laws of the country – DjofSD”
“I still have faith that Bush will do the right thing. I'm guessing that with everything going on he really has not had a chance to review the case. – delayjf”
“Bush will not da anything until it can benefit HIM.
He has been contacted many times by numerous elected officals and soi far has not had the decency to acknowledge their comments, let alon get off his fat ass and do something about it.
So when the dipstick talked about freeing up agent to go after drug smugglers Tuesday, it became clear to me this boy needs agood bitch-slippin's to knock some sense into that head full of mush of his.
This guy is either the dumbest jerk around of the coldest SOB. He has less of a clue than Charlie McCarthy. – Tom”
“The Bush admin wants them dead. – kenwoodallpromos”
“Bush has his stooge Tony Snow lying thorugh his teeth - just like the fat guy with the horn-rimmed glasses that lied for Saddam. the attorney general is lying, and he is a Bush appointee, as is the judge. Three jurors have come forward and said they were coerced for a verditct. Medical evidence backs the story of the two agents- the scumbag drug dealer was not shot in the back.
This is the Bush Doctrine - back drug dealers over law enforcement. Next time you go to the track, and stand up for the National Anthem, think about these two guys. And then sit back down. Great country.....debatable. – Tom”
“RAMOS AND COMPEAN HAVE BEEN POLITICAL PRISONERS OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR 23 DAYS! – Big mack”
