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07-13-2016, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Capper Al
I'm not the gun expert. Those details would have to be worked out.
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I'm pretty familiar with them...
Any gun is better than no gun. This is where the stupidity of what you propose begins... We are now defining something based on people's opinion and not facts...
Google Mini-14 and then M4 Carbine...
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07-13-2016, 01:59 PM
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#272
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Originally Posted by Fager Fan
My response was too harsh. I apologize and would delete it if I could. But I don't ignore what blacks feel, and my opinion of the need for an armed citizenry isn't a black or white matter but an American one. A handful of blacks possibly being wrongly killed by police is very far removed from an evil government that needs to be taken back by the people.
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Oh, I agree. Apology accepted. I believe hunting and sportsmen and self-defense are valid reasons for guns. I'm just not a fan of warfare weapons such as an AK-47. And, hopefully, we will resolve these issues without guns.
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07-13-2016, 02:02 PM
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#273
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
I'm pretty familiar with them...
Any gun is better than no gun. This is where the stupidity of what you propose begins... We are now defining something based on people's opinion and not facts...
Google Mini-14 and then M4 Carbine...
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That's why we elect people to see the job gets done. We can't help it if they don't do it.
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07-13-2016, 02:05 PM
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#274
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Originally Posted by Capper Al
I'm just not a fan of warfare weapons such as an AK-47.
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With a few rare exceptions, civilians in this country cannot own AK-47s.
But it is part of my hidden agenda to change that. 
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07-13-2016, 02:36 PM
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#275
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Originally Posted by Capper Al
That's why we elect people to see the job gets done. We can't help it if they don't do it.
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These are the same people that consider this:
A standard gun... most 12-14 year olds get for their first firearm.
And this:
A dreaded assault weapon!!!!
HINT) They're the same gun.
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07-13-2016, 04:29 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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I see nothing in the Constitution that prohibits the ownership of an AK-47.
I do see clearly where it prohibits the government from passing any law that inhibits it.
Let's rock.
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07-13-2016, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
I see nothing in the Constitution that prohibits the ownership of an AK-47.
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An AK-47 is a fully automatic weapon and as such is subject to stricter registration than most guns. Federal restrictions include ATF registration and transfer processes as well as a $200 transfer fee. A number of states prohibit ownership of automatic weapons by civilians, and these prohibitions have been upheld.
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07-13-2016, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Clocker
An AK-47 is a fully automatic weapon and as such is subject to stricter registration than most guns. Federal restrictions include ATF registration and transfer processes as well as a $200 transfer fee. A number of states prohibit ownership of automatic weapons by civilians, and these prohibitions have been upheld.
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Thought there were civilian models of the AK-47 in semi. Perhaps not manufactured in Russia, but the same none the less. Maybe I'm wrong.
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07-13-2016, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Marshall Bennett
Thought there were civilian models of the AK-47 in semi. Perhaps not manufactured in Russia, but the same none the less. Maybe I'm wrong.
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I was just nitpicking to stir up the libs. The AR-15 is the civilian version of the M-16. The SAR-1 is the civilian version of the AK-47.
AK-47s and SAR-1s are made in many countries around the world. Romania is a big source for SAR-1s imported into the US.
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07-13-2016, 07:44 PM
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#280
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Originally Posted by Clocker
With a few rare exceptions, civilians in this country cannot own AK-47s.
But it is part of my hidden agenda to change that. |
Upfront my friend, and good to know.
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07-13-2016, 09:40 PM
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#281
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Originally Posted by Fager Fan
No offense, but you're one crazy, racist SOB.
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Originally Posted by Clocker
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Since Fager Fan and I like Mark Twain quotes, the posts above made me think of this one by Twain:
"Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." –Mark Twain
Not saying it is true or false. It is just an interesting quote.
Last edited by highnote; 07-13-2016 at 09:42 PM.
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07-13-2016, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by highnote
Since Fager Fan and I like Mark Twain quotes, the posts above made me think of this one by Twain:
"Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." –Mark Twain
Not saying it is true or false. It is just an interesting quote.
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Twain was a humorist. The best humor is usually based on exaggeration of reality. Analysis of humor usually destroys it, so I won't try to analyze Twain.
He is close to the truth at the extreme, for dogmatic, unquestioning conservatives. On the other side of the coin are dogmatic, unquestioning liberals who practice the blind and fear-filled worship of political correctness and equal outcome over equal opportunity. Intelligent, thinking people fall into neither category.
Unfortunately for our country, there are too many of both extremes today, both in the electorate and, more importantly, in elected office on both sides of the aisle.
To add to the above, if one must engage in blind, fear-filled worship of the deceased, one could do a lot worse than worship Ben Franklin, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, and James Madison in preference to Karl Marx, Woodrow Wilson, FDR, and Saul Alinsky.
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09-01-2016, 02:28 PM
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#283
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Just another Facist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Now in Houston
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Chief quits. Lots of problems revealed I bet.
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09-01-2016, 03:34 PM
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#284
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
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I would imagine they wouldn't implement the changes he felt were needed so he didn't feel like fighting them after 33 years. Don't blame him a bit.
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09-01-2016, 04:07 PM
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#285
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Just another Facist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Now in Houston
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Originally Posted by chadk66
I would imagine they wouldn't implement the changes he felt were needed so he didn't feel like fighting them after 33 years. Don't blame him a bit.
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He's been running a crappy department for years. They are losing as many as 50 cops a month to other departments for months.
He was not well liked and had been on the hot seat before the shootings.
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