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12-02-2016, 05:44 PM
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the all time lowest win pool today
after doing this for over 50 years now this has to be the lowest win pool of all time anywhere.
today's 7th race at Scarborough had a grand total of $35 on the win pool. they did have $350 in the trifecta and $191 in the perfecta pools.
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12-02-2016, 05:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lamboguy
after doing this for over 50 years now this has to be the lowest win pool of all time anywhere.
today's 7th race at Scarborough had a grand total of $35 on the win pool. they did have $350 in the trifecta and $191 in the perfecta pools.
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Incredible, how do they stay afloat?
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12-02-2016, 06:26 PM
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Just another Facist
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Amazing......does that include off track?
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12-02-2016, 06:48 PM
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I bet $2 and drove your horse's odds down. Sorry.
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12-02-2016, 07:41 PM
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Grinding at a Poker Table
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I probably participated in the close runner up to this record small pool.
Not sure what the WPS handle was, but it was at Evergreen Park (Grande Prairie, AB, Canada) about 10 years ago.
You know the pools were tiny when my $2 win bet on #1 (which finished 4th), was paid $17.20 because none of the above 3 finishers had any win pool wagers on them!
In their defense, the harness meet had concluded the week before, and since there were still some harness horses still on the grounds, they were carding 2 harness races before the TB/QH races for a few weeks with a Post Time slightly earlier than normal.
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12-02-2016, 07:59 PM
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Grinding at a Poker Table
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Also in the running for possibly the lowest Win Pool ever was the pari-mutuel wagering pool at the Harness race meet at the Lisbon, OH fair. I was in attendance there in Aug/2014 and the total handle for the 10-race card was either $802 or $806 for ALL the different pools.
Crazy me was the high roller, contributing $48 to the overall pool totals.
Some of these OH harness racing fairs are a hoot! The stretch was 5-6 wide at its' maximum, but the first turn looked like a maximum 2-wide.
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12-02-2016, 10:14 PM
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Scarborough stopped sending the video signal out of state(Maine) 2 or 3 years ago. Their pools have dipped to these kinda of lows pretty much immediately. Twinspires allows you to bet on the races but since you can't watch live or on replay, no one bothers.
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12-02-2016, 10:34 PM
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The Columbiana County fair in Lisbon Ohio is a particularly idiosyncratic slice of Americana. Final day of the fair on Sunday includes the demolition derby which takes place on the same plot of ground as the harness racing held earlier in the week. Guess the drivers simply exchange their sulkies for a studebaker.
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12-02-2016, 11:28 PM
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I had to log in to see. Forgive me for doubting you.
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12-03-2016, 12:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Track Collector
I probably participated in the close runner up to this record small pool.
Not sure what the WPS handle was, but it was at Evergreen Park (Grande Prairie, AB, Canada) about 10 years ago.
You know the pools were tiny when my $2 win bet on #1 (which finished 4th), was paid $17.20 because none of the above 3 finishers had any win pool wagers on them!
In their defense, the harness meet had concluded the week before, and since there were still some harness horses still on the grounds, they were carding 2 harness races before the TB/QH races for a few weeks with a Post Time slightly earlier than normal.
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Was there a harness track inside the main track or did they run on the same surface maintained for the flat runners?
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12-03-2016, 11:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 098poi
I had to log in to see. Forgive me for doubting you.
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Amazing board, it's like betting opened for minute and the race was cancelled. I think they should eliminate all place and show pools from the Harness game at these small tracks and it could possibly stimulate the win pools.
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12-03-2016, 12:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lamboguy
this has to be the lowest win pool of all time anywhere.
today's 7th race at Scarborough had a grand total of $35 on the win pool.
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Hunh??
That's just another ordinary bad race at Truro Raceway.
I found win pools of $49, $50, and $51 in charts for just the two available race cards from there, randomly.
(one, with a typo, implied a win pool of $13... but it was wrong)
And sometimes it gets worse...
Truro invented the "NO" for (no win wagers, and thus "NO" odds)
<not really>
I saw 3 horses on a recent card who finished in the money, but had no show payoff because nobody bet them.
Truro is far more likely to find win pools of less than $35 than is (any U.S. track)
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12-03-2016, 12:50 PM
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Grinding at a Poker Table
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pele polo
Was there a harness track inside the main track or did they run on the same surface maintained for the flat runners?
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There was an inside 4f track specifically for the harness races.
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12-03-2016, 08:35 PM
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And I thought seeing a dog at 2-1 with a little over $100 to win on him at Aqua Caliente decades ago was a small pool. That would have made that pool about 10 times the one the OP listed. There were thousands in the exacta and trifecta pools though.
P.S. That was a real dog, not a slow horse I bet on.
Last edited by Inner Dirt; 12-03-2016 at 08:47 PM.
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12-08-2016, 11:33 AM
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Sunday Dec. 4 second race at Truro Raceway, Nova Scotia.
Win pool = $40
1/2 fave pays $3.10 $4.40 and $2.10
5-horse field, $73 in the place pool, but nobody bet place on the 13-1 shot who ran 2nd, so (place bets on) the winner got to divy-up the entire lucrative place pool.
Sixth race on the same card...
The winner pays $46.00, nothing and nothing as nobody could see fit to bet on it to place OR to show.
With a win pool of just $63 in that one, the horse quite literally had two bucks on him.
(full disclosure) it wasn't mine...
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