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09-18-2020, 06:21 AM
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I sometimes see people wearing them while driving a vehicle. Must be good lemmingcrats.
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What's a lemmingcrat?
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09-18-2020, 06:28 AM
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What's a lemmingcrat?
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Do you own a mirror?
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09-18-2020, 09:25 AM
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Do you own a mirror?
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I wasn't talking to you.
But if you want to be helpful just define the word. I cannot find it in any dictionary.
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09-18-2020, 09:45 AM
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I wasn't talking to you.
But if you want to be helpful just define the word. I cannot find it in any dictionary.
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Since when have you developed a belief in dictionaries?
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09-18-2020, 10:04 AM
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what an easy game.
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Newsweek
"Republican Senate Majority Under Threat As GOP Incumbents Trail in Three Battlegrounds"
they need to pull away from trump. dammed if they do and dammed if they don't.
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09-18-2020, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
Since when have you developed a belief in dictionaries?
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Just anticipating your response. In the past you have invariably referred posters to dictionaries whenever the word "define" has been used.
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09-18-2020, 10:38 AM
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The actual sci masksd dop stopentific studies that I read, which have now been removed from the internet, did not show that at all. Only the N95/99 masks helped. The coronavirus droplets are so small that they can't even be viewed under a laboratory gauge microscope. So small, they pass right through the masks. It may be true that they help minimize the spread when someone sneezes, but they won't stop you from breathing in the virus if it's in the air in front of you.
I personally don't mind wearing them in a crowded store but I can't understand why people wear them outside, especially if you're not protesting.
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Why were they removed? Sneaky deep state at work?
No, the coronavirus viral particles are carried through the air two ways. Large droplets and smaller aerosol dispersion that N95 masks do stop. They are called "95" because.......
N95 masks. Actually a type of respirator, an N95 mask offers more protection than a surgical mask does because it can filter out both large and small particles when the wearer inhales. As the name indicates, the mask is designed to block 95% of very small particles.
However mesh size of the material used is not the whole story, and how just a small interference with free transmission and reception of the disease can significantioly change things. The R_O number or the contagion rate of an infectious disease indicates how rapidly community spread occurs. For the coronavirus that is around 3. Meaning 1 person on the average can give it to 3 others, and those 3 can infect 9, and those 9 infect 27. If the R_O number could be reduced to 2, at the end of that brief exponential chain, instead of 27 getting sick only 4 would get sick. (1x2x2=4)
Slowing the transmission of viral particles on exhalation, is not rocket science. Although ballistics are involved.
Both large droplets and aerosols are emitted ballistically. Although even fine mesh sizes of simple woven cotton are way to large to stop the viral particles completely, any solid object in that ballistic path acts as a an effective barrier.
Therefore from an engineering point of view, the percentage of cloth strands as a function of the total empty space between those strands is key. If a simple cotton mask has a "tight weave" and is 70% solid, that impacts the viral load emitted by 70%
Generally, 70% and above is quite easy to produce. A 70% reduction of the R_O number changes community spread from exponential, to much, much less and controls the pandemic!!
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09-18-2020, 10:48 AM
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Could a Lemmingcrat be a follower of this guy?
https://www.augustleming.com
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09-18-2020, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by hcap
Why were they removed? Sneaky deep state at work?
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Exactly. Leftists are fascists. Leftists insist on forcing their beliefs on others. This is why they are so big on censoring opposing views.
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09-18-2020, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by hcap
Why were they removed? Sneaky deep state at work?
No, the coronavirus viral particles are carried through the air two ways. Large droplets and smaller aerosol dispersion that N95 masks do stop. They are called "95" because.......
N95 masks. Actually a type of respirator, an N95 mask offers more protection than a surgical mask does because it can filter out both large and small particles when the wearer inhales. As the name indicates, the mask is designed to block 95% of very small particles.
However mesh size of the material used is not the whole story, and how just a small interference with free transmission and reception of the disease can significantioly change things. The R_O number or the contagion rate of an infectious disease indicates how rapidly community spread occurs. For the coronavirus that is around 3. Meaning 1 person on the average can give it to 3 others, and those 3 can infect 9, and those 9 infect 27. If the R_O number could be reduced to 2, at the end of that brief exponential chain, instead of 27 getting sick only 4 would get sick. (1x2x2=4)
Slowing the transmission of viral particles on exhalation, is not rocket science. Although ballistics are involved.
Both large droplets and aerosols are emitted ballistically. Although even fine mesh sizes of simple woven cotton are way to large to stop the viral particles completely, any solid object in that ballistic path acts as a an effective barrier.
Therefore from an engineering point of view, the percentage of cloth strands as a function of the total empty space between those strands is key. If a simple cotton mask has a "tight weave" and is 70% solid, that impacts the viral load emitted by 70%
Generally, 70% and above is quite easy to produce. A 70% reduction of the R_O number changes community spread from exponential, to much, much less and controls the pandemic!!
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Total nonsense. What about what everything that escapes from the perimeter of the mask?
Also, why should I wear a mask if someone around me is concerned about getting covid? That person should take personal responsibility for his own health and protect him/herself by donning an N95 mask. Why should anyone put the onus on someone else for their personal health? I have just as much right to not wear a mask as someone who wants to wear one.
Finally, the proof is in the eating. The world has suffered through and has survived much deadlier viruses without anyone masking up or social distancing.
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09-18-2020, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
Total nonsense. What about what everything that escapes from the perimeter of the mask?
Also, why should I wear a mask if someone around me is concerned about getting covid? That person should take personal responsibility for his own health and protect him/herself by donning an N95 mask. Why should anyone put the onus on someone else for their personal health? I have just as much right to not wear a mask as someone who wants to wear one.
Finally, the proof is in the eating. The world has suffered through and has survived much deadlier viruses without anyone masking up or social distancing.
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Did you read and digest what I said about reducing the R_O number?
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09-18-2020, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by hcap
Did you read and digest what I said about reducing the R_O number?
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Did you read and digest what I wrote and what numerous other physicians have written about the ineffectiveness of masks?
Answer me this: How in the world has mankind,throughout all these centuries, survived all the viruses that have attacked us without masking, social distancing and self-imposed house arrests?
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09-18-2020, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
Did you read and digest what I wrote and what numerous other physicians have written about the ineffectiveness of masks?
Answer me this: How in the world has mankind,throughout all these centuries, survived all the viruses that have attacked us without masking, social distancing and self-imposed house arrests?
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Is that where we're setting the bar? Not everyone was killed?
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09-18-2020, 01:30 PM
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People wearing gators should be shot....going to make this pandemic last a decade. Oh the humanity.
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09-18-2020, 02:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GMB@BP
People wearing gators should be shot....going to make this pandemic last a decade. Oh the humanity.
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Gators have a bit of style to them
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