This doesn't sound good (for Servis and Navarro)

[JustRalph]

Originally Posted by lamboguy

of course they are, they are the very toughest office in the country. they have higher conviction rates than anyone else too.

What jurisdiction would be better?

[lamboguy]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

What jurisdiction would be better?

none that i have seen. they have more judges in that court than any other federal court and the government wins more money with fines and seizures than any where else.

[jay68802]

Only problem I see is no failed drug tests.

[tophatmert]

I meant to quote post #423 here. That is probably the thing that stands out the most to me. Dirty trainers might be even more emboldened knowing that if they can keep the supply chain secret they will get away with what they are doing. Why would they think that the racing entities would spend the money for testing.

[nijinski]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Hey nijinsky...

Hope you are holding up well in all of this mess.

Thanks so much PA , it’s insane
. I left the medical field after a huge trauma in 2015
And I feel really bad now . I’m watching docs I worked
For begging for safety supplies .
But so far hanging in and I pray for all of you to be
Safe . I am ithe NJ epicenter and PA and others
In NY the hardest hit .
Thinking of all of you
My dog crushed my I pad but I will try
To stop by more ! �� snd distance hugs To all you guys and
Gals .....watch video below lol
https://www.facebook.com/697975340/p...231985341/?d=n

[JustRalph]

Great video

[dilanesp]

Originally Posted by tophatmert

I meant to quote post #423 here. That is probably the thing that stands out the most to me. Dirty trainers might be even more emboldened knowing that if they can keep the supply chain secret they will get away with what they are doing. Why would they think that the racing entities would spend the money for testing.

Dopers get away with this stuff mostly because the federal government and states rarely investigate. It's actually VERY hard to keep supply chains secret over time if law enforcement is watching.

[luisbe]

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-rac...ngshots-to-win

[CryingForTheHorses]

Originally Posted by timp

All should be banned for life.Everyone talks about the bettors getting cheated by this I say what about the trainers and even owners that are trying to win a race to patthere mortgage that month or electric bill and her comes cand ass with his illegal juice and beats him where is that justice there lucky I’m still not racing because they would have more than a problem with fbi to worry about theytook the food right out of working people’s mouth by stealing and cheating.

I agree with you
Scumbags like this need to be banned forever!
Nothing makes me happier to see these indictments!
Finally the horse has a voice!!

[alhattab]

“With the Works” (DiJulio) posted on Twitter that he’s hearing of another So Fla FBI sting. No other details and I haven’t seen anyone else mention

[jay68802]

http://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com...-blood-doping/

[Boomer]

Originally Posted by jay68802

http://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com...-blood-doping/

Trainer suspended but not out of business. His horses are already with other family members. Harness racing bad boys never go away, they all have "beards" and nothing is ever done about that.

[jay68802]

Yeh Boomer, the old boys network kicks in. Was watching a race today, and a horse in the race was previously trained by Jorge Navarro. One of the on air personalities said the horse was coming out of a barn that "got horses to run above their ability", or something very similar to that. When I heard that, I thought, just be honest. Say the trainer was indicted for using PEDs. But, this sport seems allergic to pointing stuff like this out.

[SG4]

I had a question that maybe one of the database users on this site could figure out - since Servis' suspension, for all the horses who transferred from him to another trainer, have any of these horses hit a new top figure (beyer-wise, or any speed figure you may use) under the care of their new trainer? Have seen a lot of regression, or horses who never seemed to resurface.



I guess there's been one, Doll, who finally learned how to win this year, but other than that I really don't think I've seen any horse to naturally improve or stay even at the same high level once they were out of the Servis barn.

[onefast99]

Originally Posted by SG4

I had a question that maybe one of the database users on this site could figure out - since Servis' suspension, for all the horses who transferred from him to another trainer, have any of these horses hit a new top figure (beyer-wise, or any speed figure you may use) under the care of their new trainer? Have seen a lot of regression, or horses who never seemed to resurface.



I guess there's been one, Doll, who finally learned how to win this year, but other than that I really don't think I've seen any horse to naturally improve or stay even at the same high level once they were out of the Servis barn.

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