mail in voter fraud / vote discarding

[PaceAdvantage]

I know right? They spent the first THREE YEARS OF THE ****ING TRUMP ADMIN telling us how voters were DEFRAUDED by the RUSSIANS.

And now they're telling us the vote is 100% on the up and up...can't be manipulated...

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

I know right? They spent the first THREE YEARS OF THE ****ING TRUMP ADMIN telling us how voters were DEFRAUDED by the RUSSIANS.

And now they're telling us the vote is 100% on the up and up...can't be manipulated...

Maybe the "Russian fraud" wasn't widespread enough.

[stuball]

If you can hire terrorists to burn and loot and kill nothing I say 'NOTHING' is off the table per the words of Nancy and Chuckles... voting terrorism may certainly be part of the plan... So I say vote early - don't wait till Election day to avoid getting caught in whatever terrorism they are planning.... if you see a busload of people in the area of voting immediately call 911 to report it.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by 46zilzal

and the evidence of widespread voter fraud comes from????

Widespread voter fraud.

[biggestal99]

Originally Posted by Tom

Widespread voter fraud.

I wasn’t voter fraud but an administrative error.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-mdpa/pr...reau-elections

The staff opened the ballots prematurely contrary to proper procedure.

Allan

[46zilzal]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

"Believe?"

The actual vote on November 3 could be 100% clean and valid, and it would still be rigged against him. They've been rigging it against him for four years now...hard to beat that kind of institutionalized rigging.

When someone is that incompetent, rails against allies, screws the economy, and lies to the public daily, there needs to be NO rigging, the guy is a buffon!

[biggestal99]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

They have downplayed every single incident of mail fraud, voter fraud and tampering.

It's ok.

This is not any of the above.

It was an administrate error.

Much ado over nothing

Allan

[Jeff P]

Originally Posted by biggestal99

This is not any of the above.

It was an administrate error.

Much ado over nothing

Allan

According to the United States Attorney's Office letter that you linked to, county election staff didn't just open ballots prematurely.

County election staff opened military ballots prematurely - AND DISCARDED THEM.

Letter to Luzerne County Bureau of Elections

Shelby Watchilla, Director of Elections of Luzerne County Bureau of Elections

Dear Ms. Watchilla:

On Monday, September 21, 2020, at the request of Luzerne County District Attorney Stefanie Salavantis, the Office of the United States Attorney along with the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Scranton Resident Agency, began an inquiry into reports of potential issues with a small number of mail-in ballots at the Luzerne County Board of Elections.

Since Monday, FBI personnel have conducted numerous interviews and recovered and reviewed certain physical evidence. While at this point the inquiry remains active, based on the limited amount of time before the general election and the vital public importance of these issues, I will detail the investigators’ initial findings.

The FBI has recovered a number of documents relating to military ballots that had been improperly opened by your elections staff, and had the ballots removed and discarded, or removed and placed separately from the envelope containing confidential voter information and attestation. Specifically, a total of nine (9) military ballots were discovered to have been discarded. Seven (7) of those ballots when discovered by investigators were outside of any envelope. Those ballots were all cast for presidential candidate Donald Trump. One (1) of those seven (7) ballots was able to be identified to an envelope that was recovered, and thereby potentially tied to a specific voter. Two (2) military ballots that had been discarded were previously recovered by elections staff, reinserted into what appeared to be their appropriate envelopes, and then resealed. Therefore, the votes cast on those two (2) ballots are unknown. Thus, is appears that three (3) of the nine (9) recovered ballots can be potentially attributed to specific voters. Six (6) of the ballots were simply removed and discarded, and cannot be attributed to a specific voter at this time.

In addition to the military ballots and envelopes that were discarded and recovered as detailed above, investigators recovered four (4) apparently official, bar-coded, absentee ballot envelopes that were empty. Two (2) of those envelopes had the completed attestations and signatures on the reverse side. One (1) envelope with a handwritten return address was blank on the reverse side. The fourth empty envelope contains basic location information and the words “affirmation enclosed” on the reverse side. The majority of the recovered materials were found in an outside dumpster.

As you know, the appropriate method for processing received military ballots is to securely store the ballot, unopened, until such time as ballot pre-canvassing can begin, which is in no event earlier than 7:00 a.m. on Election Day. Opening a military or overseas ballot, or an absentee or mail-in ballot for that matter, violates the controlling statutes and is contrary to Pennsylvania Department of State guidance. The preliminary findings of this inquiry are troubling and the Luzerne County Bureau of Elections must comply with all applicable state and federal election laws and guidance to ensure that all votes—regardless of party—are counted to ensure an accurate election count. Even though your staff has made some attempts to reconstitute certain of the improperly opened ballots, there is no guarantee that any of these votes will be counted in the general election. In addition, our investigation has revealed that all or nearly all envelopes received in the elections office were opened as a matter of course. It was explained to investigators the envelopes used for official overseas, military, absentee and mail-in ballot requests are so similar, that the staff believed that adhering to the protocol of preserving envelopes unopened would cause them to miss such ballot requests. Our interviews further revealed that this issue was a problem in the primary election--therefore a known issue--and that the problem has not been corrected.

While the assigned investigators are continuing their work including reviewing additional discarded materials, it is imperative that the issues identified be corrected. District Attorney Salavantis and I would be happy to meet with you at a mutually convenient time to discuss this matter. Please be assured that the investigators will carefully preserve all documents collected in connection with this investigation. Our goal, that I am sure you share, is to ensure that every properly cast ballot is counted.

Sincerely,

DAVID J. FREED

UNITED STATES ATTORNEY

Imo, discarding military ballots is hardly much ado about nothing.


-jp

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[biggestal99]

Originally Posted by Jeff P

According to the United States Attorney's Office letter that you linked to, county election staff didn't just open ballots prematurely.

County election staff opened military ballots prematurely - AND DISCARDED THEM.




Imo, discarding military ballots is hardly much ado about nothing.


-jp

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Yes, that is an administrative error.

Once they found they had screwed up they tried to reinsert the ballots back in the envelopes.

We’re successful in three instances.

Therefore only 6 were spoiled and won’t be counted for trump.

Allan

[chrisl]

Originally Posted by biggestal99

Yes, that is an administrative error.

Once they found they had screwed up they tried to reinsert the ballots back in the envelopes.

We’re successful in three instances.

Therefore only 6 were spoiled and won’t be counted for trump.

Allan

Funny. It goes from never ever, ever ,ever happens. Complete conspiracy from neo Nazi whitey's. Well it is only .000001% if it ever happened. Well we are not perfect, administrative error.

[davew]

Come on Man, look at all the ways the Republicans limit voting

[46zilzal]

https://abc11.com/politics/9-discard...-says/6673782/

During Tuesday night's debate, the president claimed a West Virginia mail worker was "selling ballots." That drew a clarification from West Virginia's Republican secretary of state, Mac Warner, who noted the case involved a postal worker altering eight absentee ballot applications during the state's primary election earlier this year.

HARRISBURG, Pennsylvania -- It appears that an election worker's decision to throw out nine military ballots in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania, amounted to a mistake and not "intentional fraud," the state's top elections official said Wednesday.

Workers in the elections office in Luzerne County are getting training on handling mailed-in military and overseas ballots, Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar said during an online news conference.

"The investigation is still going on, but from the initial reports we've been given, this was a bad error," said Boockvar, a member of Democratic Gov. Tom Wolf's administration. "This was not intentional fraud. So training, training, training."

[rastajenk]

What else would you expect a member of a Democratic administration to say when a Dem is caught tossing Trump votes?

[46zilzal]

Texas is already one of the hardest places in America to vote, and Greg Abbott, the Texas governor, on Thursday made it even harder.

The announcement from Abbott, a Republican, limits an executive order from July that made it modestly easier for voters to return their ballots during the pandemic. Texas usually only lets voters return their mail-in ballots in person on election day, but Abbott’s July order said voters could return their ballots in person to the election clerk’s office earlier. He also extended early voting by six days.

As a result, some of the biggest counties in the state had planned to offer voters multiple places to could drop off their ballots. Harris county, the most populous in the state, planned to let voters return their ballots at 11 of the clerk’s annex offices around the county. Travis county, home of Austin, planned to offer four places to return their ballots. But the move drew backlash within his own party; Republicans sued the governor over the changes.

On Thursday, Abbott backtracked on his earlier order and issued a new executive order only allowing counties to offer voters a single place to return their ballots. Abbott’s order also said officials had to let official poll-watchers inspect the process.

They are in cahoots, always have been.

from https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...votes-election

[46zilzal]

https://www.timesfreepress.com/news/...-finale/86409/

quote: HBO's critically acclaimed series "The Newsroom," wrote Cooper and her story into its finale, which aired Sunday night. The fictional show is based on a network news program.

Cooper is identified by name by fictional anchor Will McAvoy, played by Jeff Daniels on the show. He tells his television audience that Dorothy Cooper is a woman from Tennessee who cannot vote because she doesn't have a valid ID. He adds that 20 million people in the country do not have government-issued IDs and will therefore not be able to vote.