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03-08-2016, 10:21 PM
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NoPoints4ME
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Originally Posted by Tall One
Well, in this situation, I can think of a couple. One, it was his style...couple others, it was situational..
Chris McCarron. Watch Alysheba's Derby, now that's a right handed whip. Mikey Smith...his ride on Giacamo in the Derby tells me he did not do it for the camera..I lost count at 27. Rene Douglas--Editors Note's Belmont--would be another...so make it three. JMO.
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Hey Tall One...I was referring to the ticky tack light click right hand whip along with the weak hand light pump. Sorry, I wasn't being clear. Was responding to a prior post.
I am sure there have been some awesome left handed drives with right hand whipping in racing history, despite me totally believing that most serious rides are predominantly left hand whipped down the lane.
Of course, each horse is different, some hate a left hand crop, some horses lug out, need a right hand whip and each situation is different.
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03-08-2016, 10:33 PM
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Scum Bum!
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Originally Posted by EMD4ME
Hey Tall One...I was referring to the ticky tack light click right hand whip along with the weak hand light pump. Sorry, I wasn't being clear. Was responding to a prior post.
I am sure there have been some awesome left handed drives with right hand whipping in racing history, despite me totally believing that most serious rides are predominantly left hand whipped down the lane.
Of course, each horse is different, some hate a left hand crop, some horses lug out, need a right hand whip and each situation is different.
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Easy to get lost in translation these posted words..
My ACTUAL point was Eddie D could get more out of a hand ride than most who were trying to get more out of their horse with a left or right hand whip.
But, regardless, I think we were still close to the same page. Nothing worse than window dressing down the lane.
Last edited by Tall One; 03-08-2016 at 10:34 PM.
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03-08-2016, 10:37 PM
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NoPoints4ME
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Originally Posted by Tall One
Easy to get lost in translation these posted words..
My ACTUAL point was Eddie D could get more out of a hand ride than most who were trying to get more out of their horse with a left or right hand whip.
But, regardless, I think we were still close to the same page. Nothing worse than window dressing down the lane.
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I don't worry, soon PA will probably go to face time or webchat or whatever it's called. No more mistyping or misspeaking !
Eddie D. FOR SURE!
Makes me wish that guy who tried to punch Chavez back at PIM in the 1990's was around to make another attempt, when I see a jock on the lead or rallying late and giving "window dressing".
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03-08-2016, 10:43 PM
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Gawd...id forgot about that nut job. It was way too early in the card, for anybody to be that hammered..and I'm not talking about the number of beers I had that day at the Keeneland simulcast...
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03-08-2016, 10:53 PM
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NoPoints4ME
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Originally Posted by Tall One
Gawd...id forgot about that nut job. It was way too early in the card, for anybody to be that hammered..and I'm not talking about the number of beers I had that day at the Keeneland simulcast...
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yeah that was nuts!
If he cost me a placing on a wager, I would've tracked him down and punched him
Just kidding!
I hope he did some serious time for that one.
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03-08-2016, 11:26 PM
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longshot kick de bucket
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oh for the days of hugo dittfach....rode every race like it was a stakes.
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09-23-2020, 11:35 AM
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Pilot Error: ‘We’ve Got Another Lap To Go Here, My Friend’
https://www.paulickreport.com/horsep...ere-my-friend/
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Named in honor of the nine-time champion Irish jockey who died last week at the age of 43 from pancreatic cancer, the starter allowance was scheduled at 1 1/2 miles on the turf, the same distance, as track announcer Matt Dinerman pointed out, as the Irish Derby that Smullen had won twice – most recently with Dermot Weld-trained Harzand in 2016.
The starting gate for this starter allowance contest was positioned nearly five furlongs from the finish line on the backstretch, meaning the nine runners would go 1 1/2 times around the about seven-furlong turf course.
Gomez was aboard Shot of a Lifetime, the second choice in the wagering at 3-1 odds for trainer Ellen Jackson. The California-bred gelding broke alertly from the No. 4 post position and quickly went to the front, opening up five lengths after a quarter mile in :24.12 and he was 15 lengths in front after a half in :47.40. Gomez could be seen peeking back several times, no doubt wondering where the competition was.
But then, shortly after crossing the finish line well in front of his closest pursuer, Gomez raised up in the saddle, allowing Shot of a Lifetime to gallop out toward the outside rail, his job seemingly done.
And then came the rest of the field, as Dinerman said: “And Shot of a Lifetime, I'm not sure if the rider understands, we've got another lap to go here my friend…and Shot of a Lifetime being taken out of the race. Shot of a Lifetime eased up now.”
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Last edited by Tor Ekman; 09-23-2020 at 11:36 AM.
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09-23-2020, 12:13 PM
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Location: Reno, NV
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Originally Posted by OptionalClaimer
It's happened for years but lately jocks like Javier Castellano and Joel Rosario haven't been "finishing" their races. What I mean is once they get passed for first or second they just stop riding the horse the last 50-100 yards.
They must realize that we bet trifectas & supers with them.
Edgar Prado, Kent D are famous for just wrapping up a horse once they get passed.
Who are some of the jocks you notice don't finish every race?
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This is an awesome idea for my new jockey stats!
Thank you!
It fits all the criteria I look for:
Code:
Measurable
Represents a known characteristic
Spins off other metrics
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09-23-2020, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Mandrake
Eddie D could teach everyone a lesson on how to finish.
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I recall a study one of my stats friends did back in the 1980s of SoCal jockey tendancies.
The multi-year study showed that Eddie D (in particular) ran 2nd a huge percentage of the time on favorites in the last race of the card.
The numbers proved to be statistically significant, with Ci in the high 90s.
IOW, Eddie D horses produced an inordinate number of key exactas, with the Fav in the #2 position in the last race of the day.
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09-23-2020, 12:41 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Back in the 70s, FL offered a distance starter allowance series, races up to 4 miles and a 1/16.
One rider pulled up early, so for the rest of the races, they put a table in front of the tote board with 4 playboy bunnies dancing on it - one would hop off each lap.
I bet a horse, Mill Reef, who actually got LAPPED at 4m70.
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09-23-2020, 01:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom
I bet a horse, Mill Reef, who actually got LAPPED at 4m70.
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That's a new one for me.
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09-23-2020, 03:48 PM
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Out-of-town Jasper
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom
... they put a table in front of the tote board with 4 playboy bunnies dancing on it - one would hop off each lap.
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I thought only the greyhounds chased the rabbits.
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09-23-2020, 05:06 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by classhandicapper
That's a new one for me.
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He was wide......
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09-24-2020, 09:19 AM
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what?
they are not paid by the owners.. the gamblers supply the money by betting.. follow the money
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