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03-24-2017, 04:09 PM
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The Fart of the Deal (or The Art of the Fail)
Donald Trump, who didn't know health care legislation was complicated, got his comeuppance today. He's going to take names and kick ass, though, so watch out Freedom Caucus and "moderates." Of course, it was all Ryan's fault, doncha know. Only problem is, the tax relief and infrastructure bills are now set back.
Now, the dems will be filibustering his SC nominee, but I think they should hold their ammo on that.
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03-24-2017, 04:12 PM
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This thread should be delayed until at after the vote is over. Just sayin. 
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03-24-2017, 04:15 PM
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Well, even if it squeaks by, it's all uphill from here. Best thing for the R's is for it to fail, otherwise they get blamed.
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03-24-2017, 04:16 PM
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Ryan pulled it. It wont save his sorry ass.
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03-24-2017, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by woodtoo
Ryan pulled it. It wont save his sorry ass.
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If you think it was Ryan's call to pull it you are delusional.
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03-24-2017, 04:22 PM
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I think he begged on bended knee to Mr. President to have it pulled. 
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03-24-2017, 04:31 PM
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I don't see this as a fail for Trump, but instead a victory of sorts. The Repubs had 7 years to figure out a substitute plan, and they failed miserably. Trump called for them to sh** or get off the pot, so that's exactly what happened. I bet he hires some people to put together a new GOOD plan to give to the Repubs for another try down the road since the Repubs are useless.
This is all on the Repubs. I've heard enough to believe it wasn't a good plan, so I'm good with it not passing. You don't replace something bad with something else that is bad. Get it right.
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03-24-2017, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Fager Fan
This is all on the Repubs.
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No, it was killed only because enough Republicans who knew it was a bad bill stuck to their guns, rather than be pressured by Ryan and Trump.
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03-24-2017, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Clocker
No, it was killed only because enough Republicans who knew it was a bad bill stuck to their guns, rather than be pressured by Ryan and Trump.
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Yes.
It was the best thing that could happen.
Trump felt pressured to make a deal, but Ryan put together a bad bill. It's much better to take some political heat for not making a bad deal than making a bad deal and dealing with the implications of it when it fails.
The republicans saved Trump from himself even if he does not appreciate that right now. Even his own instincts on the subject different than what he was given. I'm surprised he didn't reject it on his own.
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03-24-2017, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Clocker
No, it was killed only because enough Republicans who knew it was a bad bill stuck to their guns, rather than be pressured by Ryan and Trump.
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My take too. Which is exactly what they should have done. This is the way things are supposed to work. They can come back to it....
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03-24-2017, 04:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fager Fan
I don't see this as a fail for Trump, but instead a victory of sorts. The Repubs had 7 years to figure out a substitute plan, and they failed miserably. Trump called for them to sh** or get off the pot, so that's exactly what happened. I bet he hires some people to put together a new GOOD plan to give to the Repubs for another try down the road since the Repubs are useless.
This is all on the Repubs. I've heard enough to believe it wasn't a good plan, so I'm good with it not passing. You don't replace something bad with something else that is bad. Get it right.
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I agree... Trump plays chess while the house and senate play checkers.
Seven yrs for this... should of been an iron clad slam dunk had they really put the work into it.
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03-24-2017, 05:02 PM
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The fact some of you here are trying to spin this as a good thing for Trump is truly amazing... this is a failure of epic proportions.
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03-24-2017, 05:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clocker
No, it was killed only because enough Republicans who knew it was a bad bill stuck to their guns, rather than be pressured by Ryan and Trump.
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This..... 
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03-24-2017, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
The fact some of you here are trying to spin this as a good thing for Trump is truly amazing... this is a failure of epic proportions.
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Passing Obamacare was an epic failure.
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03-24-2017, 05:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fager Fan
Passing Obamacare was an epic failure.
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Key word... passing...
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