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Old 12-03-2020, 09:46 PM   #16
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The 22-1 shot was very playable on pedigree, By Temple City(Dynaformer) out of a stakes winninig mare in England on the grass. The horse had been entered in a race taken off the turf its first and only try at Laurel. This shows they were turf meant any way. Unfortunately I only used it in the second leg of the P4 and couldnt find the winner of the 9th. 3/4 with a 46.00 horse hurts.
Jahura- I hate doing this because it is a complete redboard, but I used that 9th winner on 12/2 using the “bottom is bottom” angle, + thought grass would suit. If you aren’t familiar with the angle I can explain further but in essence theory in this case is that $5k at FL on dirt is roughly = $16k on grass at Tam b/c they are both bottom level for the track (FL goes I think to $4k). I think the Tampa $16k MCLs on grass can be inflated depending on the field.

BTW Campo has another one in on Fri same level coming from FL...
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Old 12-03-2020, 11:26 PM   #17
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Jahura- I hate doing this because it is a complete redboard, but I used that 9th winner on 12/2 using the “bottom is bottom” angle, + thought grass would suit. If you aren’t familiar with the angle I can explain further but in essence theory in this case is that $5k at FL on dirt is roughly = $16k on grass at Tam b/c they are both bottom level for the track (FL goes I think to $4k). I think the Tampa $16k MCLs on grass can be inflated depending on the field.

BTW Campo has another one in on Fri same level coming from FL...
Al, not a problem. I actually played a smaller saver bet on the winner of the 9th. Got some money back but was surprised when that horse went in to the gate at 21-1 and crossed the finish line at 11-1. How much actually did you bet?just kidding.
I noticed Campos horse trying the same thing in the 3rd tomorrow, and that horse is coming from MCL5000 going to the turf MCL16000. His form looks almost unusable unless you try the "Bottom is Bottom" angle. Thanks for the new idea.
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Old 12-04-2020, 09:21 AM   #18
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Al, not a problem. I actually played a smaller saver bet on the winner of the 9th. Got some money back but was surprised when that horse went in to the gate at 21-1 and crossed the finish line at 11-1. How much actually did you bet?just kidding.
I noticed Campos horse trying the same thing in the 3rd tomorrow, and that horse is coming from MCL5000 going to the turf MCL16000. His form looks almost unusable unless you try the "Bottom is Bottom" angle. Thanks for the new idea.
Haha yeah not much but I did catch the tri. Of course as a horseplayer it's always what might have been. I had the $46 horse you had as well, and also the winner of the 8th, but didn't play the 6th and don't recall looking at it (work got in the way) so no Pick 4. Story of my year I either miss a good one or am 3/4 or 4/5 in horizontals.
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Old 12-04-2020, 11:51 PM   #19
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That is a lot of information, I have watched just some of the replays and I know it means nothing but the color of the dirt track is different. Also another thing the day I watched, it seemed the horse coming down the middle of the track were doing better. One thing I like is the PP's are out early. I just down loaded Wednesday and I'm going to work on that this weekend. Thank you for responding hope we can continue
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Old 12-04-2020, 11:55 PM   #20
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Thank you , I'll keep that in mind
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Old 12-05-2020, 08:46 AM   #21
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That is a lot of information, I have watched just some of the replays and I know it means nothing but the color of the dirt track is different. Also another thing the day I watched, it seemed the horse coming down the middle of the track were doing better. One thing I like is the PP's are out early. I just down loaded Wednesday and I'm going to work on that this weekend. Thank you for responding hope we can continue
Steve, in my opinion the rail has not been the place to be recently. I think your
observations are spot on.
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Old 12-05-2020, 11:39 PM   #22
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Anyone play in tournaments or are you just mainly betting om the races?
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Old 12-06-2020, 04:05 AM   #23
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Tampa podcast

Does Tampa offer or any other place where Tampa races are discussed day to day?
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Old 12-06-2020, 03:37 PM   #24
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Al, not a problem. I actually played a smaller saver bet on the winner of the 9th. Got some money back but was surprised when that horse went in to the gate at 21-1 and crossed the finish line at 11-1. How much actually did you bet?just kidding.
I noticed Campos horse trying the same thing in the 3rd tomorrow, and that horse is coming from MCL5000 going to the turf MCL16000. His form looks almost unusable unless you try the "Bottom is Bottom" angle. Thanks for the new idea.
I didn’t have it but nice “bottom is bottom” horse won 6th at GP 12/6
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