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Old 11-08-2016, 07:05 AM   #16
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If God is forgetful, let me help him/her out. Think Ruby Ridge & Waco. Now if you want to look at the big picture the Oklahoma City bombing was a direct results of those murders. It's true she didn't plant the bomb, but sans her crimes the bomb would probably not have been planted.
By your ridiculous logic, we are then to blame for the World Trade Center. You going there?
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Old 11-08-2016, 08:23 AM   #17
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By your ridiculous logic, we are then to blame for the World Trade Center. You going there?

The World Trade Center bombing was done by foreign terrorists. It might even be viewed as an act of war if you could pin point which nation (s) assisted in it, if any.

The Oklahoma City bombing was the action of a misguided patriot. Tim McVeigh's actions were a reaction to Ruby Ridge & Waco. While Tim was a bigot & maybe a little out there, his motives were pure. He believed that the Federal Government was out of control. He believed that the Clinton administration had an end game which would strip us of our 2nd amendment rights & weaken our rights as a people. He also had a belief that the state had no right to force him to have license plate on his car. That was how he was caught. When he was caught he had a Glock and could easily have shot the arresting officer. He said later that he considered it but then thought that would have been unjustified as his fight was with the Feds & not with the Oklahoma police. When he learned that there was a pre school in the building, he pretty much accepted his fate & didn't go through years of nitpicking appeals to avoid the death sentence.

Such is my logic on the matter.
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Old 11-08-2016, 08:26 AM   #18
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The World Trade Center bombing was done by foreign terrorists. It might even be viewed as an act of war if you could pin point which nation (s) assisted in it, if any.

The Oklahoma City bombing was the action of a misguided patriot. Tim McVeigh's actions were a reaction to Ruby Ridge & Waco. While Tim was a bigot & maybe a little out there, his motives were pure. He believed that the Federal Government was out of control. He believed that the Clinton administration had an end game which would strip us of our 2nd amendment rights & weaken our rights as a people. He also had a belief that the state had no right to force him to have license plate on his car. That was how he was caught. When he was caught he had a Glock and could easily have shot the arresting officer. He said later that he considered it but then thought that would have been unjustified as his fight was with the Feds & not with the Oklahoma police. When he learned that there was a pre school in the building, he pretty much accepted his fate & didn't go through years of nitpicking appeals to avoid the death sentence.

Such is my logic on the matter.
Terrorists see themselves as patriots too. Quit making excuses for them.
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Old 11-08-2016, 08:37 AM   #19
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Terrorists see themselves as patriots too. Quit making excuses for them.
I don't see that I have made any excuses for the terrorists, but thank you for sharing. I now elect to be the adult in this conversation and will allow you to have the last word.
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Old 11-08-2016, 08:39 AM   #20
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The World Trade Center bombing was done by foreign terrorists. It might even be viewed as an act of war if you could pin point which nation (s) assisted in it, if any.

The Oklahoma City bombing was the action of a misguided patriot. Tim McVeigh's actions were a reaction to Ruby Ridge & Waco. While Tim was a bigot & maybe a little out there, his motives were pure. He believed that the Federal Government was out of control. He believed that the Clinton administration had an end game which would strip us of our 2nd amendment rights & weaken our rights as a people. He also had a belief that the state had no right to force him to have license plate on his car. That was how he was caught. When he was caught he had a Glock and could easily have shot the arresting officer. He said later that he considered it but then thought that would have been unjustified as his fight was with the Feds & not with the Oklahoma police. When he learned that there was a pre school in the building, he pretty much accepted his fate & didn't go through years of nitpicking appeals to avoid the death sentence.

Such is my logic on the matter.
Foreign terrorists? Who says? CNN?
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Old 11-08-2016, 08:48 AM   #21
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Foreign terrorists? Who says? CNN?

I think that the WTC bombings being carried out by Foreign terrorists was pretty much an accepted fact. If you have some knowledge of US involvement, please, I'm all ears.
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Only a select few can appreciate slamming Janet Reno on the day she died.
Should we not slam Charles Manson when he dies? Afterall, he was not nearly responsible for as many deaths as Reno was. The Waco siege was due to her, and the Oklahoma bombing was an indirect result of her actions, as McVeigh came to admit.
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I don't see that I have made any excuses for the terrorists, but thank you for sharing. I now elect to be the adult in this conversation and will allow you to have the last word.
Oh, so he regretted his actions when he found out there was a preschool. that makes it all better. He was a terrorist plain and simple and you just called him a patriot. Being a terrorist knows no creed or nationality. He killed innocent people in efforts to bring about his political ideals which makes him no different than any other terrorist. And you are making excuses for it.
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May God remember how many other people died because of her when he judges her soul.
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The World Trade Center bombing was done by foreign terrorists. It might even be viewed as an act of war if you could pin point which nation (s) assisted in it, if any.

The Oklahoma City bombing was the action of a misguided patriot. Tim McVeigh's actions were a reaction to Ruby Ridge & Waco. While Tim was a bigot & maybe a little out there, his motives were pure. He believed that the Federal Government was out of control. He believed that the Clinton administration had an end game which would strip us of our 2nd amendment rights & weaken our rights as a people. He also had a belief that the state had no right to force him to have license plate on his car. That was how he was caught. When he was caught he had a Glock and could easily have shot the arresting officer. He said later that he considered it but then thought that would have been unjustified as his fight was with the Feds & not with the Oklahoma police. When he learned that there was a pre school in the building, he pretty much accepted his fate & didn't go through years of nitpicking appeals to avoid the death sentence.

Such is my logic on the matter.
Hell of a guy that "Tim" was.Showed tremendous restraint in not murdering a civilian peace officer carrying out his professional duties.
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Old 11-08-2016, 12:41 PM   #26
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Hell of a guy that "Tim" was.Showed tremendous restraint in not murdering a civilian peace officer carrying out his professional duties.
I guess 168 murders, including 19 kids, was his limit. Everyone has one you know....
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