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Old 11-01-2016, 04:11 PM   #76
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What would cure the liberals idea of Carter/Reagan is if we could bring back Carters economy.
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Old 11-01-2016, 04:13 PM   #77
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What would cure the liberals idea of Carter/Reagan is if we could bring back Carters economy.
The one created by Johnson and Nixon?
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Old 11-01-2016, 04:24 PM   #78
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So what we need is an actor to feed us happy bs is what you are saying?
As opposed to a community organizer telling everyone - "Yes we can". Reagan came into office with more executive experience (Gov of CA) than Obama and Hillary combined. Hillary had no business being appointed as SOS - she had zero foreign policy experience. It was a pay off to get her to drop out of the election, and her lack of experience and poor judgment showed.
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Old 11-01-2016, 04:36 PM   #79
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I think there was a little bit of Vito Corleone's advice in that Sec of State selection, too.
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Each one of us looks at the world through his/her own private key-hole...and NONE of us gets a good view of what the "total picture" looks like. You lived in Texas when GWB was president...and you think he did a decent job. I lived in Illinois...and I thought he sucked. That's life...
When Bush was governor, Texas was able to recruit business from other states. Illinois was among the states we brought businesses in from

So I can see why you think he sucked. Your state government lost jobs because they refused to be more competitive. A lot of your former neighbors are now my neighbors.

Employed tax payers. It's what makes an economy. Some get it, some don't

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Old 11-01-2016, 06:30 PM   #81
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Reagan turned a truly bad economy around. He didn't have the luxury of having the Internet coming of age, creating a lot of great paying jobs. He steered the country in the right direction.
Let's take a closer look at that wonderful turn around. It really wasn't all that wonderful.

Unemployment? December 1976 the unemployment rate was 5.6%. It did not fall below that rate until April 1988; 88 months into the Reagan presidency. And those 88 months included more than a year with the unemployment rate over 10%.

The economy lost jobs in 19% of the months that Reagan was president as compared to 11% of the months Carter was president. Overall we gained 217,000 jobs a month under Reagan and 207,000 a month under Carter. Hardly a significant difference.

Average annual GDP growth under Reagan was only .2% higher than under Carter, while the national debt increased at the rate of $211,830,000,000 a year under Reagan. Compare that to $71,817,000,000 a year under Carter.

During the Carter years the lowest poverty rate was 15.9%; the highest was 18.3%. Under Reagan, the lowest poverty rate was 19.5; the highest 22.3%.

During the "terrible" Obama recovery, monthly job growth exceeded the Reagan Average (217,000) twenty eight times.

Basically you are , once again, full of beans
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Old 11-01-2016, 07:14 PM   #82
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I think there was a little bit of Vito Corleone's advice in that Sec of State selection, too.
And you can add Lyndon Johnson's similar and sage advise when he said about a old foe getting a job in his Administration: 'It's better to have him inside my tent pissing out, than to have him outside my tent pissing in.'
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Old 11-01-2016, 07:58 PM   #83
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During the "terrible" Obama recovery, monthly job growth exceeded the Reagan Average (217,000) twenty eight times.
And you got fries with each one of them.
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Old 11-01-2016, 08:29 PM   #84
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And now there's talk that the FBI is also investigating the Trump campaign for ties to Russia. Hopefully also much ado about nothing. Of course he is also under investigation by the IRS as well as another high ranking follower being investigated by the Secret Service to determine if made threats against Mrs. Clinton's life. So we also seem to have a Trump crime family if we want to stick with this ridiculous line of reasoning.
Trump was cleared by the FBI in a statement yesterday. No ties to Russia.

In more news.....the FBI has five Clinton investigations still active
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Let's take a closer look at that wonderful turn around. It really wasn't all that wonderful.

Unemployment? December 1976 the unemployment rate was 5.6%. It did not fall below that rate until April 1988; 88 months into the Reagan presidency. And those 88 months included more than a year with the unemployment rate over 10%.

The economy lost jobs in 19% of the months that Reagan was president as compared to 11% of the months Carter was president. Overall we gained 217,000 jobs a month under Reagan and 207,000 a month under Carter. Hardly a significant difference.

Average annual GDP growth under Reagan was only .2% higher than under Carter, while the national debt increased at the rate of $211,830,000,000 a year under Reagan. Compare that to $71,817,000,000 a year under Carter.

During the Carter years the lowest poverty rate was 15.9%; the highest was 18.3%. Under Reagan, the lowest poverty rate was 19.5; the highest 22.3%.

During the "terrible" Obama recovery, monthly job growth exceeded the Reagan Average (217,000) twenty eight times.

Basically you are , once again, full of beans
And you, are full of beans or some such.

Remember the "misery index" ? I'm sure you do. That was under the Carter administration.

If you're this elementary, that you post up spot play data to compare Carter - Reagan - 0bama, there is no need for a discussion. You're mindless and in the bag, as usual

Tell me again how well 0bamacare is working. That's 0bie's legacy. It's on its Ass

Ask anyone that survived the Carter years. Iran held us over the balcony by our ankles. Our pride as a nation was at an all time low. The economy tanked, real estate was dead in the water because interest rates on a mortgage was around 18 %. The country's morale was the lowest of my lifetime

Put the Kool aid and donuts down, hit the gym

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Old 11-01-2016, 11:42 PM   #86
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The working-man gets screwed no matter WHO the president is. Which president can you recall who cared about you...and your family's future? The only ones who are guaranteed to "retire with a decent life"...are the politicians themselves.
In Reagans first term they shut the government down twice. The President promised the military through channels he would get the enlisted man paid despite the shut down. It was a frigging mess. It turned out that everybody with direct deposit, which was relatively new then, got paid. Reagan and Tip O'Neil got together and behind the scenes got the banks to pay us and take it out of the banks own pockets until the government came back online. The guys without direct deposit were able to get cash from the base credit unions etc until the politicians ended the shut down. We went two paychecks that way if I remember right. I was told by some very knowledgeable finance types on base that only two banks in the country said no.

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Old 11-01-2016, 11:47 PM   #87
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In Reagans first term they shut the government down twice. The President promised the military through channels he would get the enlisted man paid despite the shut down. It was a frigging mess. It turned out that everybody with direct deposit, which was relatively new then, got paid. Reagan and Tip O'Neil got together and behind the scenes got the banks to pay us and take it out of the banks own pockets until the government came back online. The guys without direct deposit were able to get cash from the base credit unions etc until the politicians ended the shut down. We went two paychecks that way if I remember right. I was told by some very knowledgeable finance types on base that only two banks in the country said no.
Government civil contracted employees for the military, stationed overseas, were NOT given these options.....We had to wait it out, and so did our families and creditors.
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Old 11-01-2016, 11:51 PM   #88
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Trump was cleared by the FBI in a statement yesterday. No ties to Russia.

In more news.....the FBI has five Clinton investigations still active
Cleared of direct ties but you might want to look into where he is getting financing these days...http://time.com/4433880/donald-trump-ties-to-russia/

Some of these issues were addressed, others were not. And he is cleared just like Mrs. Clinton was cleared. They have not stopped looking.
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Old 11-02-2016, 12:59 AM   #89
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Trump was cleared by the FBI in a statement yesterday. No ties to Russia.

In more news.....the FBI has five Clinton investigations still active
Its the campaign of adults vs the campaign of babies. Very refreshing to see Dr Carson, Mike Pence and President Trump talking calmly, rationally and like adults today at a speech in Valley Forge, PA. Meanwhile, here's Hillary lying about her whereabouts on 9.11, and holding up the hand of a getaway car driver who threatened a judge's life. Maybe Hillary is out getting tanked at a local bar with her 'fans', i wouldnt put anything past her at this moment, 70 year old acting like a petulant child, a big baby.

Between Podesta, Huma, Weiner, Mook, Lynch, Brazile, Wasserman-Schultz and a few of the 'dismissed' operatives who were beating people up at Trump rallies this is SOME cast of characters, nobody in that group is 'easy to root for', what a clown show, bozo would be ashamed to be associated with these people.
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Old 11-02-2016, 11:09 AM   #90
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During the "terrible" Obama recovery, monthly job growth exceeded the Reagan Average (217,000) twenty eight times.
Not if you factor in population growth. (see the graph in the article.)

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015...s-as-expected/

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Ronald Reagan’s economic plan saw GDP surge at a 3.5% clip – 4.9% after the recession. That’s a 32% bump.

During the Obama years, thanks to his big government policies, the US economy has stalled. Today the quarterly GDP was announced. The GDP for the first quarter of 2015 braked more sharply than expected at only a .2% pace. The US economy has grown an anemic 9.6% during the Obama years (excluding today’s dismal number).

Of course, Obama’s record on job growth is also much worse than President Reagan’s record.
obama reagan job growth

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