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Old 04-05-2023, 11:07 AM   #16
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Most weren't aware of the size of the swamp, the real effects. One thing he did do was shine a light on it and expose it to a much greater degree
He shined a light on it but he also became part of it. He and his family both enriched themselves while in office
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I'd disagree, but you and I would go on forever. Not interested in it, doubt you are either

Fact is, he and his wife and kids are business people. Successful business people. Before, during, and after his presidency. I can't think of another potus in my lifetime that checks those boxes. He didn't need the white house to increase his wealth.
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He sure didn't 'enrich' himself as much as his predecessor did.
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He sure didn't 'enrich' himself as much as his predecessor did.
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Old 04-05-2023, 06:42 PM   #20
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I'd disagree, but you and I would go on forever. Not interested in it, doubt you are either

Fact is, he and his wife and kids are business people. Successful business people. Before, during, and after his presidency. I can't think of another potus in my lifetime that checks those boxes. He didn't need the white house to increase his wealth.
Some of his businesses were successful some were not. His hotels and resorts profited a lot by him being President. I really don't care if he did or not but lets not pretend he didn't use the swamp to enrich himself. The hotel in DC had many government officials from other countries stay there at inflated prices. I'm sure the happened at most of his hotels. The RNC was also going to hold their convention at Doral, then changed because of the optics
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Old 04-05-2023, 06:45 PM   #21
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He sure didn't 'enrich' himself as much as his predecessor did.
Not true Obama made most of his money after he left, just like the Clintons
https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalex...h=4fd6ac485bf0
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What in the world is the difference?
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Old 04-05-2023, 09:12 PM   #23
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I'd disagree, but you and I would go on forever. Not interested in it, doubt you are either

Fact is, he and his wife and kids are business people. Successful business people. Before, during, and after his presidency. I can't think of another potus in my lifetime that checks those boxes. He didn't need the white house to increase his wealth.
That's how you guys keep score.
Increasing personal wealth.

If someone breaks the law while in office,
bring a solid case against them and indict.
Quit dissing and pointing fingers.
It's all you guys ever do.
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Not true Obama made most of his money after he left, just like the Clintons
https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalex...h=4fd6ac485bf0
Money just fell out of the sky.
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Old 04-05-2023, 09:16 PM   #25
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That's how you guys keep score.
Increasing personal wealth.

If someone breaks the law while in office,
bring a solid case against them and indict.
Quit dissing and pointing fingers.
It's all you guys ever do.
Like Russian collusion, peeing on a bed, etc, etc.
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Old 04-05-2023, 11:37 PM   #26
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That's how you guys keep score.
Increasing personal wealth.

If someone breaks the law while in office,
bring a solid case against them and indict.
Quit dissing and pointing fingers.
It's all you guys ever do.
You seem envious of Trump and his family. Seek help. Next thing you know you'll have issues taking a leak at public restrooms.
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Some of his businesses were successful some were not. His hotels and resorts profited a lot by him being President. I really don't care if he did or not but lets not pretend he didn't use the swamp to enrich himself. The hotel in DC had many government officials from other countries stay there at inflated prices. I'm sure the happened at most of his hotels. The RNC was also going to hold their convention at Doral, then changed because of the optics
His DC hotel lost millions in operating costs. Any profits he made would have been made via the sale. (Think owning sports franchises.. you operate in losses, profit via sale)

Not to be mean spirited but you honestly don't know what you're talking about.

https://therealdeal.com/new-york/202...dc-hotel-sale/
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Old 04-05-2023, 11:59 PM   #28
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Fact is, he and his wife and kids are business people. Successful business people. Before, during, and after his presidency. I can't think of another potus in my lifetime that checks those boxes. He didn't need the white house to increase his wealth.
But he used the White House to do exactly that.

Probably the most disgusting thing I’ve seen a politician do. Most wait until they’re out of office. He started from day one.
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Probably the most disgusting thing I’ve seen a politician do.
You've been around a LONG time...no way this is true.

Probably not even in your top 10 if you were being honest with yourself.

Stop lying.
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This is how Obama can afford all his mansions:

https://www.startup-book.com/wp-cont...nnerwnames.jpg
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