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04-04-2023, 06:58 PM
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Chuck Schumer Apr 4, 2023 @SenSchumer (Don't) Follow
I believe that Donald Trump will have a fair trial
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This from the guy who said regarding Trump.
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Let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you,” Schumer told MSNBC’s
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Fair my ass...
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04-04-2023, 08:38 PM
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What we have here is a cabal of democrats, media, high tech companies, RINOs, and the intelligence community using the full force of the private sector and government institutions to stop Trump. They've been lying from day one and now they are using the legal system to try to stop him.
I'm not the biggest Trump fan. I agree with him on some policy issues and dislike other things about him and his policies, but he is not our biggest problem. Our biggest problem is what this dark cabal has been willing to do to stop him.
To me, freedom, free markets, democracy, the rule of law, honest intellectual debate, merit, unbiased media etc.. are the intrinsic "goods" that make our country great. Anything that goes against that is evil. They don't want to debate policy and let the people decide. They want to destroy him using deception, lies, censorship, legal threats and other dark side methods. These are very bad people and we should not be sugar coating how dangerous they are to our freedoms and democracy.
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04-04-2023, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by classhandicapper
What we have here is a cabal of democrats, media, high tech companies, RINOs, and the intelligence community using the full force of the private sector and government institutions to stop Trump. They've been lying from day one and now they are using the legal system to try to stop him.
I'm not the biggest Trump fan. I agree with him on some policy issues and dislike other things about him and his policies, but he is not our biggest problem. Our biggest problem is what this dark cabal has been willing to do to stop him.
To me, freedom, free markets, democracy, the rule of law, honest intellectual debate, merit, unbiased media etc.. are the intrinsic "goods" that make our country great. Anything that goes against that is evil. They don't want to debate policy and let the people decide. They want to destroy him using deception, lies, censorship, legal threats and other dark side methods. These are very bad people and we should not be sugar coating how dangerous they are to our freedoms and democracy.
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You make it sound like someone or something else is the cause of our problems. It is not…it is us. WE put those people in office.
WE get the government WE deserve.
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04-04-2023, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by classhandicapper
What we have here is a cabal of democrats, media, high tech companies, RINOs, and the intelligence community using the full force of the private sector and government institutions to stop Trump. They've been lying from day one and now they are using the legal system to try to stop him.
I'm not the biggest Trump fan. I agree with him on some policy issues and dislike other things about him and his policies, but he is not our biggest problem. Our biggest problem is what this dark cabal has been willing to do to stop him.
To me, freedom, free markets, democracy, the rule of law, honest intellectual debate, merit, unbiased media etc.. are the intrinsic "goods" that make our country great. Anything that goes against that is evil. They don't want to debate policy and let the people decide. They want to destroy him using deception, lies, censorship, legal threats and other dark side methods. These are very bad people and we should not be sugar coating how dangerous they are to our freedoms and democracy.
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You say that these are the intrisic "goods" that make our country great. Can you name the period in time when these "intrisic goods" were actually in effect?
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04-04-2023, 09:35 PM
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Intrinsic Goods for the are what Class described, and what this country wants. Sad thing is, that there are people that have a completely opposite idea what these Intrinsic Goods are, and should be. That has been the fight.
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04-04-2023, 09:46 PM
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I think the citizens want what they vote for in every election
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04-04-2023, 09:53 PM
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#172
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
I think the citizens want what they vote for in every election
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Ignorance runs rampant in many elections...
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04-04-2023, 10:05 PM
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#173
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Location: Behind the Pine Curtain
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
I think the citizens want what they vote for in every election
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I think we / they want other candidates and options
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04-04-2023, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by TJDave
You make it sound like someone or something else is the cause of our problems. It is not…it is us. WE put those people in office.
WE get the government WE deserve.
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Same as my post above. We want better options on the ballots.
Trump and Biden, the choice? Both too old, in Biden's case he's divided the nation and ruined the economy
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“We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,” -Joe Biden
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04-04-2023, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ElKabong
Same as my post above. We want better options on the ballots.
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Again. Those options are up to voters. They decide who’s on the ballot.
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04-04-2023, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by TJDave
Again. Those options are up to voters. They decide who’s on the ballot.
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No they don't; voters don't decide who is on the ballot. You have a vote if are a member of your party's local, state or national Committee.
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04-05-2023, 04:29 AM
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04-05-2023, 04:33 AM
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04-05-2023, 07:34 AM
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PA Steward
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Little does Charlie know (but if he were a member here, he would)....country isn't IN COLLAPSE....it's already GONE....Jim.....
(See what I did there? Charlie Kirk tweet....so then I made a Star Trek reference there at the end of my sentence...with my use of Jim being in obvious reference to Captain James T. Kirk and my use of already gone a tip of the cap to Dr. Leonard "Bones" McCoy....got it? get it? got it? thank me? )
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04-05-2023, 07:44 AM
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#180
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