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03-31-2021, 04:09 PM
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Engish Translation of The Septuagint
This is how the NET (New English Translation) reads, which is a translation of the OT in Greek.
6(5) Your arrows are sharp, O powerful one --
peoples shall fall under you --
in the heart of the king's enemies.
7(6) Your throne, O God, is forever and forever
A rod of equity is the rod of your rule,
You loved righteousness and hated lawlessness
Therefore God, your God, anointed you with oil
of rejoicing beyond your partners.
What the text is saying is quite obvious. God has a throne. Therefore, God is a King, for only kings have thrones! "Your throne, O God , is forever and forever."
Further, only God's throne could be "forever and forever". This is exactly what I pointed out earlier with Psalm 110 and the Davidic Covenant. It's not possible in any of these passages we have discussed that the messianic king could be but a mere mortal.
In the last part of 7(6), the first Elohiym is this eternal King. And the second Elohiym is this the first Eloyhiym's God.
See how easy this is. 
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03-31-2021, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
King Melech HaMoshiach
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Is this king eternal?
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03-31-2021, 04:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boxcar
This is how the NET (New English Translation) reads, which is a translation of the OT in Greek.
6(5) Your arrows are sharp, O powerful one --
peoples shall fall under you --
in the heart of the king's enemies.
7(6) Your throne, O God, is forever and forever
A rod of equity is the rod of your rule,
You loved righteousness and hated lawlessness
Therefore God, your God, anointed you with oil
of rejoicing beyond your partners.
What the text is saying is quite obvious. God has a throne. Therefore, God is a King, for only kings have thrones! "Your throne, O God , is forever and forever."
Further, only God's throne could be "forever and forever". This is exactly what I pointed out earlier with Psalm 110 and the Davidic Covenant. It's not possible in any of these passages we have discussed that the messianic king could be but a mere mortal.
In the last part of 7(6), the first Elohiym is this eternal King. And the second Elohiym is this the first Eloyhiym's God.
See how easy this is. |
Why use a translation?
Go to the original Hebrew text.
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03-31-2021, 04:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Why use a translation?
Go to the original Hebrew text.
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You read Hebrew? 
Now, again...is this king you mentioned eternal?
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03-31-2021, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
You read Hebrew?
Now, again...is this king you mentioned eternal? |
Not very well.
That's why I would consult someone who does. They're not too hard to find. 
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03-31-2021, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Not very well.
That's why I would consult someone who does. They're not too hard to find. |
So, do I. They're called language scholars and their job is to translate.
But what is exceedingly difficult to find is an answer from you to a very simple question: Is this so-called King Moshiach eternal?
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03-31-2021, 10:09 PM
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so said:
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Originally Posted by boxcar
So, do I. They're called language scholars and their job is to translate.
But what is exceedingly difficult to find is an answer from you to a very simple question: Is this so-called King Moshiach eternal?
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"I'm looking for loopholes."
[W. C. Fields, when
caught reading the Bible]
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03-31-2021, 10:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boxcar
So, do I. They're called language scholars and their job is to translate.
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Hebrew isn't like some ultra mystical language that nobody speaks anymore. Stop acting like it is.
You just don't want to accept what people who are expert in both the language and the scriptures are telling you what certain important things mean in English.
So you'll go shopping around for a "translation" until you find the one that suits you.
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04-01-2021, 01:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
So you'll go shopping around for a "translation" until you find the one that suits you.
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You having fun yet?
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04-01-2021, 08:02 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Hebrew isn't like some ultra mystical language that nobody speaks anymore. Stop acting like it is.
You just don't want to accept what people who are expert in both the language and the scriptures are telling you what certain important things mean in English.
So you'll go shopping around for a "translation" until you find the one that suits you.
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No one translation is perfect, so the smart thing for an honest student of scripture to do is to consult various translations to try to derive the sense of the text.
I do accept what language experts say as long as what they're saying doesn't contradict the scriptures. It's you who cannot. Look at you: You still haven't answered questions I have asked repeatedly.
You haven't told me who the human lord in Ps110:1 is. Nor have you told me if
King Moshiach Psalm 45 is eternal or not, or is he just a a human., too? Maybe even the same human lord in Ps110:1?
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04-01-2021, 08:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Hebrew isn't like some ultra mystical language that nobody speaks anymore. Stop acting like it is.
You just don't want to accept what people who are expert in both the language and the scriptures are telling you what certain important things mean in English.
So you'll go shopping around for a "translation" until you find the one that suits you.
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Hence There are literally thousands of independent Protestant denominations.
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04-01-2021, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by TJDave
You having fun yet?
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It was never about having fun...lol
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04-01-2021, 09:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by porchy44
Hence There are literally thousands of independent Protestant denominations.
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But those are not the result of poor translations; rather the result of poor interpretations which are the products of corrupt minds.
Anyone who honestly wants to understand the scriptures can do so, most especially in this day and age of all the biblical tools at our disposal, such as bible dictionaries, concordances, multiple translations, topical bibles, chronological bibles, gospel harmonies, bible software, etc. In this day and age, no one has any excuse to plead ignorance. If someone wants to know truth, these aids are out there, along with the most important aid of all -- the Holy Spirit who would honor anyone's honest prayer for help.
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04-01-2021, 03:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
It was never about having fun...lol
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Keep at it....you are very close to getting Boxcar to change his mind. 
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04-01-2021, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
Keep at it....you are very close to getting Boxcar to change his mind. |
I did that a long time ago. It's an act called repentance.
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