My Most Unusual Dating Experience

[lamboguy]

Originally Posted by fast4522

So your talking about a connected guy right? Henry D. Vara Jr.

I don't really think Henry was a mob guy, he did own plenty more nightclubs in town. His brother Carmen, owned a place across the street in the Somerset Hotel called Flicks.. word has it, Henty paid off the city health inspectors to close the place up.. it was a very dirty story where one of the partners killed himself after they were closed up.. it was the biggest club in town and had a swimming pool in it.

[Teach]

Good morning. I enjoyed reading your posts. I knew Red Sox grounds-keeper Joe Mooney very well. I first met Joe through a fellow-teacher, a business teacher who taught in Boston named Bob. I would frequently see Joe Mooney when I worked as a Boston Red Sox Fenway Park tour-guide over 15-years ago.

In those days, Joe would regale me with stories about the Red Sox, particular their clubhouse. It’s the kind of stuff you’d never read in the papers. I would see Joe Mooney at Suffolk Downs, particular when the horse named for him, Joe Mooney, was running. The last time I saw Joe, in person, was when I was a tour-guide; we chatted in Fenway Park’s “laundry room.”

As for Kenmore Square, I liked “Lucifer’s,” but the music could be quite loud. I thought there was another place right next door called “K-K-K-Katy’s.” I was then renting a studio apartment at the corner of Beacon and Mountfort Streets. I was teaching at East Boston H.S. Directly below my apartment was a bar called “Father’s Too.” If I had an opening and a fireman’s pole, I could have slid down the pole right into the bar. In any event, a cold, refreshing brew was not far away.

Another place I frequented was called “Dino’s Lounge.” It was a “whole in the wall” place at the corner of Beacon St. and Park Drive.

If I remember, I thought there was a place called the Ebola Lounge on Comm. Ave.

As I mentioned in my story, my favorite “watering hole” was called the Kismet Lounge on Comm. Ave. Years earlier, when I was in college, I visited the “Dugout Café.”

Oh, there were other places in Boston I’d go to, i.e., “The Hillbilly Ranch”. I enjoyed country/western music.

[xtb]

Originally Posted by Teach

I was sitting at the bar at a Boston singles-club. I was enjoying my favorite adult refreshment. What would take place that evening, and in the weeks that followed, would account for my most unusual dating experience.
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Hey "Teach", this version is a lot different than the last three times you told it. I think you have an overactive imagination.

[Cuffdaddy]

Let us relive our lives in what we tell you.

Phil Collins

[railbird]

Teach ,Suff or Fast did any one of you spend any time in the bar across the street on the corner from Fenway Park named The Pennant
My wife 's uncle a guy named Pat Toy , story is he owned the place must have been in the late 50's mid 60's.??

[Suff]

[QUOTE=Teach;2749306][FONT="Verdana"][SIZE="4"]Years earlier, when I was in college, I visited the “Dugout Café.”

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Since late 80's The Dugout almost entirely a BU bar. PA likely hit this spot. while attending the Liberal BU!

[Suff]

Originally Posted by railbird

Teach ,Suff or Fast did any one of you spend any time in the bar across the street on the corner from Fenway Park named The Pennant
My wife 's uncle a guy named Pat Toy , story is he owned the place must have been in the late 50's mid 60's.??

I vaguely recall it. I was around here frequently, I know most from memory. Our business was pest control and we had a lot of these bars as customers. I'd go in and spray the bug juice in the morning. I've been in a lot of bars

Joe actually gave us a small contract at Fenway. Bird Control. We'd use a mix of Nixolite and some biological methods to keep birds from roosting in the Grandstands. Shitting on Patrons..

I got one for Teach he did'nt mention, The Choppin Block in Brigham Circle. Heavy hitter bar. I'd go in there at 6 am to spray the bug juice and they'd be 6 people drinking at the bar and 2 sound asleep in the booths.

[fast4522]

Originally Posted by lamboguy

I don't really think Henry was a mob guy, he did own plenty more nightclubs in town. His brother Carmen, owned a place across the street in the Somerset Hotel called Flicks.. word has it, Henty paid off the city health inspectors to close the place up.. it was a very dirty story where one of the partners killed himself after they were closed up.. it was the biggest club in town and had a swimming pool in it.

So I am not going to sugarcoat OK, your guy had rackets run out of his gay bars. If you drop the subject it is OK, the rose colored glasses on this subject is a tell. I did my very best my whole life to avoid such types, I only cared about myself and by doing so that in the end was a good thing.

[fast4522]

Originally Posted by railbird

Teach ,Suff or Fast did any one of you spend any time in the bar across the street on the corner from Fenway Park named The Pennant
My wife 's uncle a guy named Pat Toy , story is he owned the place must have been in the late 50's mid 60's.??

No never been there. So I sound like a diary of a old drunk what is missing is timeline and context. I started out like the work drinking buddy who did 60 to 70 hours a week. So I then took advantage that I was a good dancer and I was really into more than beer. Before Ronald Wilson Reagan became president I stopped drinking beer for a time and moved away from the Boston crowd of friends and started going to auctions. It was a smart move on my part, Ed who was our manager had a massive heart attack and died. Mark another engineering type got Cirrhosis of the Liver and died. Peter a engineer and Captain USAF reserve fighter pilot got cancer and died. From the beginning I drove a motorcycle and was lucky to keep it on the ground, except for my crazy times riding wheelies with others at Hampton Beach.

[lamboguy]

Originally Posted by fast4522

So I am not going to sugarcoat OK, your guy had rackets run out of his gay bars. If you drop the subject it is OK, the rose colored glasses on this subject is a tell. I did my very best my whole life to avoid such types, I only cared about myself and by doing so that in the end was a good thing.

Rrank DiMento was a specialist in criminal IRS work. as far as I can remember DiMento beat a criminal tax evasion case for Vara,

as far as being connected to the arm, if you owned nightclubs anywhere, you had mob guys frequent those places. i doubt that Vara was a made man in the organization. he might not have charged some of these guys for champagne, but he didn't run around town lending out street money or booking numbers and selling dope.

Vara ran a few race meets at the Great Barrington Fair. to get licensed one would have had to pass an FBI background check. if he had known associations with bad people he would have never got the license.

that is what I am going by for my statement of being non-connected. anything else would just be reading between the lines.

[Teach]

Lamboguy -

Didn't one of the Vara's teach in Boston at English High?

[Fred Mertz]

After reading your missive, you didn't pile drive Sue or Angie?


What's the point?

[Teach]

When I was a boy (I was born in Syracuse, NY), my grandfather and my father would take me fishing at a place north of Syracuse called Three Rivers (Baldwinsville, NY). There was an Inn (playhouse) there called “The Three Rivers Inn Nightclub.”

In any event, I remember looking up at the marquee and seeing the name Louis Armstrong (“Satchmo”). Even as an 11-year-old kid (early-1950’s), I knew who Louis Armstrong was. I remember asking my father, “Dad, what’s Louis Armstrong doing playing here?” (We were in the middle of nowhere). My father didn’t have an answer.

Years later, I run into this “lighting” guy who had worked at a nightclub called: “The Meadows.” I happened to bring up “Three Rivers” and the fact that Louis Armstrong was appearing there. I distinctly remember the guy saying, “It must have been mob-controlled.”

I would later read that Frank Sinatra was supposed to appear at “Three Rivers,” but they couldn’t agree on his fee. Apparently, “Ol’ Blue Eyes” wanted a sizeable share of the liquor tab. The owners weren’t willing to meet Sinatra’s demands. He never appeared. A young boy’s question was answered.

[lamboguy]

Originally Posted by Teach

Lamboguy -

Didn't one of the Vara's teach in Boston at English High?

i don't know...

what I did find out is the rent for the CITGO sign is something like $20,000 a month. that sounds like someone made a great lease years ago to me. the renter has to pay for all improvements and power to light the sign every day.

[Suff]

It's all fun and games until this happens..
A typical alcohol infused bar fight, the guy falls down , hits his head, and dead.

This is not uncommon. Tragic.

I know first hand that some PA members frequent Clancy's. I usually stroll through once.