Horse Racing Forum - PaceAdvantage.Com - Horse Racing Message Board

Go Back   Horse Racing Forum - PaceAdvantage.Com - Horse Racing Message Board > Off Topic > Off Topic - General


Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread
Old 09-29-2023, 12:33 PM   #1
JustRalph
Just another Facist
 
JustRalph's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Now in Houston
Posts: 52,817
$20 an hour flipping Burgers

California Gov signs bill to pay “fast food” workers $20 an hour or 40k+ a year.

Starts April 1st 2024


Predictions

1. $15 dollar Big Mac’s

2. By April 1st 2025 fast food places start closing quickly
__________________
WE ARE THE DUMBEST COUNTRY ON THE PLANET!
JustRalph is online now   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 09-29-2023, 12:37 PM   #2
PhantomOnTour
C'est Tout
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Cajunland
Posts: 13,272
This is what I ask people who say restaurants with table service should pay their servers a living wage....do you want to pay $45 for your Chick Parm instead of the current $22 ??
__________________
How do I work this?
-David Byrne
PhantomOnTour is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 09-29-2023, 12:57 PM   #3
Jeff P
Registered User
 
Jeff P's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: JCapper Platinum: Kind of like Deep Blue... but for horses.
Posts: 5,291
Quote:
Originally Posted by JustRalph View Post
...Starts April 1st 2024
Sadly, it's a real bill (not an April Fools Day joke.)

My prediction is automation... 2 or 3 employees per shift instead of 8.

A machine where burger patties go in at one end and come out as fully assembled and packaged Big Macs, etc. at the other.

Of course it'll be somebody's job to make sure the "bun magazine" is always loaded.

Sure as shit every once in a while one of those $20/hr employees is going to drop the ball.

And some poor customer who was handed his food at the drive through window is going to be 40 miles down the highway before opening the paper wrappers of one Big Mac after another only to discover the effing buns are missing.


-jp
.
__________________
Team JCapper: 2011 PAIHL Regular Season ROI Leader after 15 weeks
www.JCapper.com
Jeff P is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 09-29-2023, 01:12 PM   #4
Bustin Stones
Registered User
 
Bustin Stones's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2022
Posts: 785
I'm in favor of automation. At least I'll have half a chance at getting that sandwich assembled without some of the contents half out of the bun. The french fry operation should be fully automated. Not sure about beverages after seeing coffee machines screw up an order.
Bustin Stones is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 09-29-2023, 01:15 PM   #5
Tom
The Voice of Reason!
 
Tom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Canandaigua, New york
Posts: 112,887
You want fries wit dat?

$8.00!
__________________
Who does the Racing Form Detective like in this one?
Tom is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 09-29-2023, 04:50 PM   #6
thaskalos
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 28,569
Quote:
Originally Posted by JustRalph View Post
California Gov signs bill to pay “fast food” workers $20 an hour or 40k+ a year.

Starts April 1st 2024


Predictions

1. $15 dollar Big Mac’s

2. By April 1st 2025 fast food places start closing quickly
A blessing in disguise, IMO. Fast food should be avoided at all costs.
__________________
"Theory is knowledge that doesn't work. Practice is when everything works and you don't know why."
-- Hermann Hesse
thaskalos is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 09-29-2023, 06:53 PM   #7
JustRalph
Just another Facist
 
JustRalph's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Now in Houston
Posts: 52,817
Elon Musk is going to solve this problem eventually, but still some years away.

If you haven’t seen his humanoid robot, it’s very interesting.

https://www.teslaoracle.com/2023/09/...ff-mechanisms/



“In less than a year, the Optimus engineering team at Tesla enabled it to perform complex hand and body gestures. This is the result of the advancement Tesla has achieved in both the hardware and software side of Optimus.

Interestingly, Tesla Optimus identifies even its own body using the Tesla Vision neural net. “Using only vision and joint position encoders, it can precisely locate its limbs in space,” Tesla states as Optimus attempts to identify its arms and hands through its vision.“

https://youtu.be/0SGPdqTg-g4?si=3SaSwojJ-knvzhcV
__________________
WE ARE THE DUMBEST COUNTRY ON THE PLANET!
JustRalph is online now   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 09-29-2023, 06:55 PM   #8
PaceAdvantage
PA Steward
 
PaceAdvantage's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
Posts: 88,651
They don't want people to have jobs.

They want them to rely on the gov't guaranteed income

The gov't will be able to tax the shit out of corporations who will have much lower personnel expenses due to AI and robots and thus be able to afford sky-high tax rates.

Working as intended.
__________________
@paceadvantage | Support the site and become a today!
PaceAdvantage is online now   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 09-29-2023, 08:20 PM   #9
Bustin Stones
Registered User
 
Bustin Stones's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2022
Posts: 785
Your government wants you to perform competitive work. When you price yourself out of the market, either by edict or union agreements, there's opportunity to replace by handing your work offshore or to mechanization. The moral is to not price oneself out of the market.
There are services, such as mail delivery or teaching where that work cannot be farmed offshore. I would hope members of those unions don't believe they are qualified to advise manufacturing workers on how to negotiate. Automotive assemblers face very different challenges than folks who don't need to worry about their work being sent offshore.
AOC, as trained educator, has not had to expose herself to that pressure. And there's those who haven't been part of a union. That had to perform on a mutually agreed term of satisfaction or be sent packing. And that's also a pressure that neither union postal workers or teachers face. So, the least qualified people to advise others on how to negotiate with an employer should step back.
Bustin Stones is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 09-29-2023, 09:02 PM   #10
Inner Dirt
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Beaverdam Virginia
Posts: 12,717
This will just drive more automation where humans will be replaced. The tipping point is always labor cost. If it looks like there is a chance using robotics will be more cost efficient, engineering companies will get on a solution.
Inner Dirt is online now   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 09-29-2023, 10:17 PM   #11
Jeff P
Registered User
 
Jeff P's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: JCapper Platinum: Kind of like Deep Blue... but for horses.
Posts: 5,291
And when robots are equipped with AI powerful enough that they become self aware?

What then?



-jp
.
__________________
Team JCapper: 2011 PAIHL Regular Season ROI Leader after 15 weeks
www.JCapper.com
Jeff P is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 09-29-2023, 11:41 PM   #12
plainolebill
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posts: 1,622
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff P View Post
And when robots are equipped with AI powerful enough that they become self aware?

What then?



-jp
.
Who will cross an AI picket line?
plainolebill is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 09-30-2023, 03:20 PM   #13
Inner Dirt
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Beaverdam Virginia
Posts: 12,717
I am equally amazed at what is automated these days and what isn't.
How it's Made, is a cool show, since I haven't had anything more than broadcast TV I have not watched it in a dozen years. There are some technical mistakes, but it is mostly accurate. The mistakes are mainly using improper terminology for tools and processes. I am hoping the narrator
learned the difference from a drill and an end mill.
Inner Dirt is online now   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 09-30-2023, 10:21 PM   #14
davew
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 22,655
orders being taken by people in India over skype

card only purchases / no cash

machines making most items


no more restrooms and indoor dining

entire fast food joint manned by 2 people


CALIFORNIA is trend setting ....
davew is online now   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 09-30-2023, 10:47 PM   #15
Mulerider
Registered User
 
Mulerider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: East Texas
Posts: 1,338
I remember a few years ago Wal-Mart held a self-serving PR press conference to announce that it was implementing a $15 minimum wage for its employees.

A few months later -- with no press conference that I know of -- Wal-Mart quietly began replacing its cashiers with self-service checkouts.
__________________
“Government is like a baby: an alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no sense of responsibility at the other.” -- Ronald Reagan
Mulerider is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Reply





Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

» Advertisement
» Current Polls
Wh deserves to be the favorite? (last 4 figures)
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:02 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 1999 - 2023 -- PaceAdvantage.Com -- All Rights Reserved
We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program
designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.