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03-01-2023, 05:50 AM
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After a storied career, Bill Spawr disbands stable at age 83
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03-01-2023, 08:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy Asaro
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End of an era. Claiming trainers who know all the right moves don't get enough credit for what they do.
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03-01-2023, 01:45 PM
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Unreconstructed
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There was one of his patterns that I made a lot of money with in the 80s and 90s. Claimed horse freshened 45-90 days, raised in class with recent five furlong works. It wasn't the same after he cut down the size of his stable. I met him once at CERF, a very nice man.
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03-01-2023, 05:25 PM
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"Over-regulation" is why Spawr can't do the 'right thing' for the horse? 
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03-01-2023, 06:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thaskalos
"Over-regulation" is why Spawr can't do the 'right thing' for the horse? |
That's the headline really. And he speaks the truth. Overregulation with lasix and whip rules and a bunch of other stuff
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03-01-2023, 07:26 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
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Originally Posted by Andy Asaro
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Okay, I can buy Lasix maybe, but how is whip regulation not doing right by the horse? Bettors, I can see, but the horse?
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03-01-2023, 07:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
Okay, I can buy Lasix maybe, but how is whip regulation not doing right by the horse? Bettors, I can see, but the horse?
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Not saying that he thinks the whip rule is foolish but maybe he does. I know I do. Regulation/Regulations could mean many things. He seems disgusted with the direction of racing and he has no reason to to say anything he didn't really believe.
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03-01-2023, 08:02 PM
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Just Deplorable
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Before new whip rules began, jockeys weren't beating the hell out of their rides. I mean, it has happened, but it was a change for perception purposes; therefore, it wasn't 'for the horse.'
Mr. Spawr might be a canary in a coalmine. Plenty of others without his name recognition in lesser circuits will pack it in. I will not be convinced that that can be good in a long run.
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03-01-2023, 08:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rastajenk
Before new whip rules began, jockeys weren't beating the hell out of their rides. I mean, it has happened, but it was a change for perception purposes; therefore, it wasn't 'for the horse.'
Mr. Spawr might be a canary in a coalmine. Plenty of others without his name recognition in lesser circuits will pack it in. I will not be convinced that that can be good in a long run.
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03-01-2023, 08:38 PM
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Was nice the couple times I met him. He was consistent as they come.
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03-01-2023, 09:01 PM
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Buckle Up
Join Date: Apr 2014
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Spawr trained horse with Pincay aboard....Good times.
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03-01-2023, 11:19 PM
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Spawr’s departure reminds me of what Gasper Moschera’s mentioned when he prematurely retired from claiming and training race horses.
https://www.saratogian.com/2003/01/0...e-shows-flaws/
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03-02-2023, 06:45 PM
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03-02-2023, 09:50 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Willamette Valley, Oregon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ReplayRandall
Spawr trained horse with Pincay aboard....Good times.
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Spawr rode Pincay when he wasn't getting any mounts, kept his career alive and he went on to greater things. Did the same thing for Mike Smith.
He had Amazombie a breeder's cup sprint winner. Great man.
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