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Old 05-23-2010, 06:07 PM   #1
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Golden Gate Cancels Wednsdays Card

http://drf.com/news/article/113191.html

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The track received approval from the California Horse Racing Board to cancel Wednesday racing after unsuccessfully attempting to draw both its Wednesday and Thursday cards on Friday. An eight-race Thursday card was drawn with 58 entrants, an average of 7.25 horses per ra
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Old 05-23-2010, 06:18 PM   #2
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I just sent one this week from there to another venue.

One of the worst places to race right now. If you enter your horse 2 levels below where they belong, Sherman or Hollendorfer have one or two in there that are 4 levels below where they belong.

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Old 05-23-2010, 06:46 PM   #3
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Hollywood just announced no racing Wednesday..

California needs to look at the Monmouth business model and makes some changes to that effect.
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Old 05-23-2010, 07:35 PM   #4
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Like a broken record I keep repeating this; these days, there just ain't enough of good horses, owners, jockeys and bettors to go around "simultaneously"...

Until the tracks get this thru their heads, nothing will change, absolutely nothing...The facts are in and they speak loudly for themselves, and they just don't get it....They keep trying to stay in a "space-in-time" that no longer exists...

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Old 05-23-2010, 07:39 PM   #5
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Hollywood just announced no racing Wednesday..

California needs to look at the Monmouth business model and makes some changes to that effect.
The Monmouth 'model' is to race on real dirt. That's their secret.
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Old 05-23-2010, 08:34 PM   #6
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Which means since Finger Lakes does not run on Wednesday, NYC OTB will have the following tracks during the day:

Belmont





and that's it.
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Old 05-23-2010, 08:52 PM   #7
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Which means since Finger Lakes does not run on Wednesday, NYC OTB will have the following tracks during the day:

Belmont





and that's it.
Thank heavens NYCOTB avoided demise.
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Old 05-23-2010, 10:15 PM   #8
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Like a broken record I keep repeating this; these days, there just ain't enough of good horses, owners, jockeys and bettors to go around "simultaneously"...

Until the tracks get this thru their heads, nothing will change, absolutely nothing...The facts are in and they speak loudly for themselves, and they just don't get it....They keep trying to stay in a "space-in-time" that no longer exists...

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Agree with you 100%...the only way out of this worsening situation is fewer racing dates and fewer tracks.Hard choices but it makes sense.
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Old 05-23-2010, 11:27 PM   #9
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Agree with you 100%...the only way out of this worsening situation is fewer racing dates and fewer tracks.Hard choices but it makes sense.
10-4 that Belmont....The trouble with that is, which ones will bite the bullet first ?....Still, in the very near future, if each track, and all the tracks in general, want to survive, I believe they will "have to" make the right choices....Til then tho, again, who will be first ?....Once the regional tracks figure out a scheme or two, and begin to partner and collaborate, rather than compete with the other regional tracks, then I believe the surviving tracks (the ones who finally "got it") will be on the mend and will recover to a much healthier bottom line....

Supply and Demand, in the long run, I believe, will choose the eventual winners,....Internet wagering is a force to be reckoned with as well, and the ones that take this into their considerations and plans, will also reap the rewards of this " new age of wagering"....

It will be an interesting near future for "hoss-racin".....as I see it....

I predict that this year, there will be a number of closures of struggling tracks, that had finally succumbed, because of the "lack of future vision" that they had so steadfastly clung to, until it was too late to change...We'll see...

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Old 05-24-2010, 01:16 PM   #10
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I just sent one this week from there to another venue.

One of the worst places to race right now. If you enter your horse 2 levels below where they belong, Sherman or Hollendorfer have one or two in there that are 4 levels below where they belong.


True that, many other tracks/circuits have the same type of mess.

When you have guys winning at 30-40% then the races they are in become useless to bet especially with 2-3 "dead money" horses entered just to get the race to go.
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Old 05-24-2010, 01:38 PM   #11
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The Monmouth 'model' is to race on real dirt. That's their secret.
I hate to burst your bubble, but Monmouth is a Cushion Track.
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Old 05-24-2010, 01:40 PM   #12
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cushion of dirt maybe?????????????
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Old 05-24-2010, 01:56 PM   #13
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I hate to burst your bubble, but Monmouth is a Cushion Track.
Hmmm...

http://staging.monmouthpark.com/uplo...les/Around.pdf

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Main Track
The main track is a one-mile oval with 12 inches of aggregate sand drainage
and 12 inches of crushed traprock screenings. The cushion is five inches of
Racetrack B Mix, composed of 83 percent sand and 17 percent loam. The
inner 60 feet of the track is banked 2 percent on the straightaways and 4 percent
on the turns. The length of the stretch is 990 feet, and the distance from the
finish line to the first turn is 440 feet. The track is 100 feet wide on the
frontstretch, and 90 feet wide on the backstretch. There are chutes for sixfurlong
and 1 ¼ mile race
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Old 05-24-2010, 03:38 PM   #14
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If you wanna save GGF you gotta make a few schedule changes.

1) Impose an off season. No days between the day after the Breeders' Cup and January 1.

2) Either impose a 3 day work week between January 1 and May 1 or impose a 5 day work week, but only in connection to the California and El Camino Real Derbies as well as the SFBC Mile.

3) Reinstitute a 5 day work week from May 1 until the fairs open.

4) Impose a 4 day work week from the time the NorCal fairs close and the Breeders' Cup opens.
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Old 05-24-2010, 05:31 PM   #15
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With a three day work week for purses considerably smaller than Monmouth, the jockeys will leave.
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