Will Memphis Burn tonight?

[Robert Fischer]

Originally Posted by lamboguy

all these incidents with police that have been popping up quite frequently these days, probably because of all the cameras everywhere capturing the events, have been proclaimed as racial incidents. they really aren't, they are just taking place in areas that have a high concentration of people having different colors. again the only reason why we hear so much of this is strictly because of the camera's running.

years ago, police and their unions were behind all types of gun regulations, mainly to protect the officers. the laws that have shot up made it tougher to buy arms and give steeper penalties for carrying them and using them in crimes. in my state, you get an automatic year if you carry a gun that you have a license for outside your house if you do not have a license to conceal. the federal government with all its surveillance tools has managed pretty well to wipe out the mafia. mafia soldiers would always carry their weapons to protect them against rogue cops. today we don't have this, and the cops know whom to pick on because they know bullets aren't coming back at them.
The reason why we have a 2nd amendment here to start out with was to let people protect themselves against the government. A police officer is treated as an authority for the government. this i believe is what is going on in all these police incidents, nothing racial, just humans that have been given authority and are overstepping their bounds. i still feel very sorry for the mothers that have lost their children to this nonsense. its really been the liberals that are responsible for these gun laws that have only taken the guns out of the good guy's hands, the real bad ones are always gonna get their guns. elite liberals love their police and will do anything to make government and authority stronger and stronger to protect their ways and will regulate people's lives to the hilt in order to accomplish this.

I agree with a lot of this, Lambo.

Nowadays organized crime seems to use money , politics (power structures not politics as in voting), etc rather than firepower, and their 'soldiers' if that's the term seem to be security and police unwitting or rarely bought directly.on/off duty.

I'm all for right to bear arms. I'm not optimistic about using to defend from police.
Is it a deterrent? Sure. Sometimes. Strength in numbers and community/culture as well. Hopefully you work in harmony with police and most deterrence goes towards criminals.

Most beatings and such avoidable with compliance. Aggressive gang style behavior from police is rare, but can happen.There are some criminals with a badge who are predators. Avoidance and awareness is about the best you can do and prevents most unless you are very unlucky. Bad things can happen. A criminal can rob you or a drunk driver can mow yiou down. Doesn't mean to hide in the house.

Have had some bad interactions with police, myself. Most were preventable.

Sort of funny/harmless story - I was poor and lived in a low-income area south of Daytona Beach. Crack in windshield worked manual labor construction full-time, but still expensive for me.( I was trying to save in order to get a windshield that worked with the 'heads up' display rather than generic and lose that feature of my car ) Put off for a few weeks.
Girlfriend knew this. Sweet girl. Always walked to my motel to meet and greet me after work. So we had fun one day, and she's tired. She knows i I had a previous windshield warning, but wants a ride home. Only problem is the occasional police hiding spots on the way. What am i going to do? I appreciated her company (those were the days, right?). So driving her, and *woop woop* Police lights behind us. She starts telling me she's sorry. "Don't worry about it baby" .
Pulled over, carefully. And she's saying "sorry" I'm stopped and She Bursts into Tears!!
Cop pulls me out of the vehicle, slams me up against the door and throws handcuffs on me!
(he thought I must have been abusing her?)
Questions her to the side and comes over and apologizes. Tells us that I fit the description of a robbery, and sends us on our way. And I'm HAPPY! lol (no windshield ticket!!)

[MargieRose]

This attack by police looks to be 50 times worse than what happened to George Floyd, IMO. Despicable, "way over the line" actions by the five cops, regardless of what Tyre Nichols did.

ALL cops are going to have to deal with the consequences of the actions of these five boneheads.


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[Tom]

Originally Posted by horses4courses

There are some pretty f*c*ed up people posting on here.

And now one more.

Lose your bookmark?

[Tom]

Charging them with Murder 2 is ridiculous.

That was Murder 1 clearly.
Death penalty is appropriate for all 5 of the animals.

[lamboguy]

Originally Posted by Tom

Charging them with Murder 2 is ridiculous.

That was Murder 1 clearly.
Death penalty is appropriate for all 5 of the animals.

it just might be, but if you do there may be nobody that will want to become a policeman and that will piss the liberals off. there are always 2 sides to every move and usually, neither one of them is the right way to go on anything that is any issue in this country. that is where our problems sit, no matter what side of the coin we take. we listen and believe to much in Tucker and the other clowns on CNN and MSNBC. we are practicing diversity, not only with race and religion but geography and climate as well. the whole problem arises when we don't understand and respect other people's wishes. when you listen to these goofballs over the airwaves, it does nothing less than to anger people and not try to solve the deep and decisive problems that exist in a big way in 50 different states here. these guys running their mouths make $ millions by hitting our innermost nerves and exploiting it.

[United Puett]

Originally Posted by MargieRose

This attack by police looks to be 50 times worse than what happened to George Floyd, IMO.

I dunno, a cop choking a guy to death on the street for 9 minutes while onlookers screamed for him to stop looked pretty bad to me.

[xtb]

Originally Posted by United Puett

I dunno, a cop choking a guy to death on the street for 9 minutes while onlookers screamed for him to stop looked pretty bad to me.

I think you're right Terry. Kicking someone repeatedly in the head while they're down is much better than using a move taught at the police academy (albeit much too long) to subdue a suspect resisting arrest.

[zico20]

Originally Posted by Tom

Charging them with Murder 2 is ridiculous.

That was Murder 1 clearly.
Death penalty is appropriate for all 5 of the animals.

I vote for manslaughter, he was resisting arrest which led to the excessive force. When he got pulled out of the car had he just stayed down, turned over and put his hands behind his back he would still be alive and without a scratch on him. There are consequences for poor decisions, and he made a big one.

[xtb]

Originally Posted by zico20

I vote for manslaughter, he was resisting arrest which led to the excessive force. When he got pulled out of the car had he just stayed down, turned over and put his hands behind his back he would still be alive and without a scratch on him. There are consequences for poor decisions, and he made a big one.

So true. I was always taught by my father that during any interaction with police, do exactly what they tell you.

My sister taught in the city schools for 30 years. She tried every year to have an officer come to the classroom to talk and always tried to teach the kids to respect the police. But it was tough to do when they were being taught the opposite at home. She said they used to tell her they "didn't have to do anything the Po Po said." That's what's getting them killed in these situations.

[PaceAdvantage]

The human race suffers from a distinct lack of respect for human life these days.

It is on full display almost daily...from the police down to the ordinary citizen and down to the ordinary criminal. Many of them lack basic, ordinary respect for life itself.

This is due to a number of societal changes over the decades.

Many of which can be blamed on liberals and democrats, most certainly.

[davew]

tonight is the big cities burn night, peaceful protestors have to travel to get there

[xtb]

Originally Posted by davew

tonight is the big cities burn night, peaceful protestors have to travel to get there

Fighting the good fight against Trump, racist cops and white supremacy.

[Inner Dirt]

Looks like I am in the minority here. From what I see from the 4 videos Nichols was not struck once he was cuffed. The officer who hit him with the telescoping baton warned him it was coming if he did not give up his hands. I don't see a couple body punches extreme when he had already fought off getting cuffed for a good 3 minutes on scene 2. He was resisting the whole time until he was kicked in the head multiple times, he had been pepper sprayed and tased. He is the one who caused the situation to escalate.


What I do take issues with are the kicks to the head, those are what killed him. Also I saw the scene grow to 10-12 officers at one time while Tyre was leaned against the squad car in a sitting position for at least 20 minutes, not sure the medic response time but it was obvious they probably delayed calling
until Nichols passed out, you could see him stop moving. Not sure what the delay in calling an ambulance was, could they have been getting their stories straight?



Two cops got pepper sprayed, one lost his glasses and one obviously had a leg injury as he was limping. A couple heads need to roll here, but not all 5.

[Tom]

These cops acted like animals. I've seen less violent bear attacks.

NOTHING they did was warranted. THEY reacted insanely to his actions.
He did not do anything violent. THEY over-reacted, held him up for everyone to punch im, then kicked his head, then denied him medical ais for over 20 minutes.

And they celbrated with fist pumps.

This was a murder.
I still say, death penalty for all of them

I don't think garbage like that has a right to live.

It was a f****** traffic stop.

[United Puett]

Originally Posted by xtb

I think you're right Terry. Kicking someone repeatedly in the head while they're down is much better than using a move taught at the police academy (albeit much too long) to subdue a suspect resisting arrest.

Floyd was dead on the street from Chauvin kneeling on his neck, so my point was it's kind of absurd to suggest that the attack on Nichols "looked worse." Both were brutish and criminal.