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mostpost · 05-31-2022, 12:30 PM

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/31/u...imes&smtyp=cur

Wasn’t this one of the main arguments against Russian interference in the 2016 election? Back to the drawing board.

OntheRail · 05-31-2022, 12:46 PM

Let's do it again... same evidence but with a jury selected from let's say rural anywhere but DC Swamp Central. But this does not change the facts The entire Russia scam is... was a Clinton Democratic Dnc fabrication.

mostpost · 05-31-2022, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by OntheRail

Let's do it again... same evidence but with a jury selected from let's say rural anywhere but DC Swamp Central. But this does not change the facts The entire Russia scam is... was a Clinton Democratic Dnc fabrication.

You insult the integrity and intelligence of people in rural areas. The same verdict would have come back wherever the trial was held.

Jurors take their responsibility very seriously.

Inner Dirt · 05-31-2022, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by OntheRail

Let's do it again... same evidence but with a jury selected from let's say rural anywhere but DC Swamp Central. But this does not change the facts The entire Russia scam is... was a Clinton Democratic Dnc fabrication.

I disagree, I am pretty sure those little old ladies handing out coffee and doughnuts off to the side at my church polling place on election day 2016 were not trying to get new people to come to Sunday service. They were ex KGB agents in disguise who would let you have a free coffee and doughnut if you listen to them tell you Hillary Clinton was a money grabbing,
power hungry, corrupt witch.

Inner Dirt · 05-31-2022, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mostpost

You insult the integrity and intelligence of people in rural areas. The same verdict would have come back wherever the trial was held.

Jurors take their responsibility very seriously.

Like the OJ jury? You can't be serious.

OntheRail · 05-31-2022, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mostpost

You insult the integrity and intelligence of people in rural areas. The same verdict would have come back wherever the trial was held.

Jurors take their responsibility very seriously.

No Skippy I trust the integrity and intelligence rural America more so then the Swamp dwellers... bet not a single Republican or Independent on that DC jury. And would further bet ALL voted for Hillary in 16. So no bias could of influenced that shallow pool.

Tom · 05-31-2022, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mostpost

You insult the integrity and intelligence of people in rural areas. The same verdict would have come back wherever the trial was held.

Jurors take their responsibility very seriously.

classhandicapper · 05-31-2022, 01:29 PM

Ever wonder why the mafia requires you to kill someone before making you a "made" man?

That way they have something on you too.

All these corrupt scoundrels in the IC, government, and media all have so much dirt on each other, it provides mutual protection.

PaceAdvantage · 05-31-2022, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mostpost

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/31/u...imes&smtyp=cur

Wasn’t this one of the main arguments against Russian interference in the 2016 election? Back to the drawing board.

Pretty sure Hilary's campaign manager testified that she signed off on the whole Russian bank servers communicating with Trump tower scheme...testified under oath...

Am I wrong?

I don't think so:

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...ense-strategy/

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The defense called Clinton’s 2106 campaign manager, Robby Mook, who promptly, and surprisingly, testified that Hillary Clinton approved the strategy to take to the media the same false information about a Trump/Russia “hotline” that Sussmann wanted the FBI to investigate.

Whether Sussmann was convicted or not is immaterial to the fact that the whole Russian bank story was a hoax.

But you ran with it, as did the media. The entire episode was the greatest ASSAULT on democracy this country has ever seen.

Tom · 05-31-2022, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by classhandicapper

Ever wonder why the mafia requires you to kill someone before making you a "made" man?

That way they have something on you too.

All these corrupt scoundrels in the IC, government, and media all have so much dirt on each other, it provides mutual protection.

Come on, man,
You are insulting the Mafia by comparing them to the government!

JustRalph · 05-31-2022, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mostpost

You insult the integrity and intelligence of people in rural areas. The same verdict would have come back wherever the trial was held.

Jurors take their responsibility very seriously.

Bullshit. Have you seen the makeup of this jury? It was predicted the first week, he would get off because of the jury.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/sussma...ussmann-turley

mostpost · 05-31-2022, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Pretty sure Hilary's campaign manager testified that she signed off on the whole Russian bank servers communicating with Trump tower scheme...testified under oath...

Am I wrong?

I don't think so:

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...ense-strategy/

Whether Sussmann was convicted or not is immaterial to the fact that the whole Russian bank story was a hoax.

But you ran with it, as did the media. The entire episode was the greatest ASSAULT on democracy this country has ever seen.

That article from The Hill is an opinion piece and is clearly marked as such. Which means that false information is an opinion, nothing more. Now, eventually it was determined that Alfa Bank was not a back channel between the Trump campaign and Russia. But, one, that was not known at the time and two, that doesn’t mean there was not a different back channel.

But the issue is not, whether or not there was a back channel, but whether Sussman lied to the FBI and whether that affected how the FBI handled the case.

We can stipulate that Michael Sussmann was employed by the Clinton campaign. That does not mean everything he did was connected to that campaign. There was testimony that the FBI was investigating the Alfa Bank connection even before they talked to Sussmann, and the chief investigator stated that Sussmann’s meeting with the FBI did not effect how he handled the case.

Finally, there is no law against trying to persuade a journalist to cover a story.

mostpost · 05-31-2022, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

But you ran with it, as did the media. The entire episode was the greatest ASSAULT on democracy this country has ever seen.

Not as long as we have the Trump inspired, and Trump instigated attack on the Capitol.
Not as long as we have the Republican led attack on voting rights.
Not as long as we have the Republican led attack on Women’s reproductive health.
Not as long as we have the Republican led attack on immigrants.
Not as long as we have the Republican led attack on the legitimacy of the 2020 election.

On the other hand, I do agree that Durham’s prosecution in this case was an assault on democracy.

mostpost · 05-31-2022, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom

Nothing to do with anything.

OntheRail · 05-31-2022, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mostpost

Not as long as we have the Trump inspired, and Trump instigated attack on the Capitol.
Not as long as we have the Republican led attack on voting rights.
Not as long as we have the Republican led attack on Women’s reproductive health.
Not as long as we have the Republican led attack on immigrants.
Not as long as we have the Republican led attack on the legitimacy of the 2020 election.

On the other hand, I do agree that Durham’s prosecution in this case was an assault on democracy.

Fuck off... with your BS.