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10-25-2013, 05:53 PM
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Just another Facist
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It's official. We have reached the tipping point
http://bit.ly/1aJWvQn
More takers than makers
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10-25-2013, 06:04 PM
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Fundamental change, indeed. My Founding Fathers worst nightmare.
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10-25-2013, 08:21 PM
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Just Deplorable
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What a beating Romney took for being, for the most part, right.
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10-25-2013, 10:02 PM
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This is almost as silly as the idea that Obama is sitting in the Oval Office designing headwear for the Marines. And quite a bit more deceitful. First, let's look at the allegation that 108,592,000 individuals are receiving means tested cash benefits. That figure comes from the Census Bureau, but if we go to where the Census Bureau gives us that figure we find a footnote that tells us the 108,592,000 figure includes all persons living in a household where one or more pieces receives benefits.
If we have a household with a parent and three minor children, the census bureau says that four people are receiving benefits. Yet there is no way those three minor children can be makers. Also, that parent may have a full time job yet be eligible for food stamps because he does not earn enough money. Is that parent a maker or a taker? The article treats all people receiving means tested cash benefits the same even though there may be a vast difference in the amount of the benefit and the percentage of their living expenses that they pay themselves.
The there is the matter of comparing those receiving means tested cash benefits only with full time workers. There are 42.5 million part time workers who contribute to society. By definition part time workers can work up to 35 hours a week. Yet this typically phony story from Breitbart and CNS ignores them.
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10-26-2013, 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by mostpost
This is almost as silly as the idea that Obama is sitting in the Oval Office designing headwear for the Marines. And quite a bit more deceitful. First, let's look at the allegation that 108,592,000 individuals are receiving means tested cash benefits. That figure comes from the Census Bureau, but if we go to where the Census Bureau gives us that figure we find a footnote that tells us the 108,592,000 figure includes all persons living in a household where one or more pieces receives benefits.
If we have a household with a parent and three minor children, the census bureau says that four people are receiving benefits. Yet there is no way those three minor children can be makers. Also, that parent may have a full time job yet be eligible for food stamps because he does not earn enough money. Is that parent a maker or a taker? The article treats all people receiving means tested cash benefits the same even though there may be a vast difference in the amount of the benefit and the percentage of their living expenses that they pay themselves.
The there is the matter of comparing those receiving means tested cash benefits only with full time workers. There are 42.5 million part time workers who contribute to society. By definition part time workers can work up to 35 hours a week. Yet this typically phony story from Breitbart and CNS ignores them.
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So, without debating the merits of the story, I will just so yay! It seems we both agree the government is deceitful with their "numbers".
Now that you have agreed, stop telling us all how the government is the way to go...(by your own admission of deceit).
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10-26-2013, 09:55 AM
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THIS OTTA BE GOOD....
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Have you ever noticed that those who do not have a pot to piss in nor a window to throw it out of always seem to know how to handle the money of those who do.
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10-26-2013, 10:56 AM
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This is almost as silly as the idea that Obama is sitting in the Oval Office designing headwear for the Marines.
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I never said he designed the hat, but I'm sure he was shown some ideas and he picked the one he liked - probably between holes on the Golf course.
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10-26-2013, 12:03 PM
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Sure, lets argue about a few trees when the whole forest is on fire. 
There's almost no question that if you give something to someone, there is a tendency for some to build their life around the assumption that it will continue.
There's no question that it's close to impossible politically to cut something once people become dependent on it.
There's no question that if you promise to give someone something for nothing or say that the other guy wants to take it away they will tend to vote for you.
Do you really need an IQ higher than a turnip to see where this is going as we keep heading towards the tipping point?
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Last edited by classhandicapper; 10-26-2013 at 12:11 PM.
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10-26-2013, 12:27 PM
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It is almost silly to think that some day someone will vow to undo everything that Obama has done, but someday it too will happen when everything during his two terms are reversed.
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10-26-2013, 01:09 PM
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Racing Form Detective
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Lincoln, Ne but my heart is at Santa Anita
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Originally Posted by fast4522
It is almost silly to think that some day someone will vow to undo everything that Obama has done, but someday it too will happen when everything during his two terms are reversed.
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So they are going to resurrect bin Laden?
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10-26-2013, 01:27 PM
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how does anyone know for sure? I think it is a media snow job.
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Never tell your problems to anyone because 20% flat don't care and 80% are glad they are yours.
No Balls.......No baby!
Have you ever noticed that those who do not have a pot to piss in nor a window to throw it out of always seem to know how to handle the money of those who do.
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10-26-2013, 01:29 PM
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What have you done for me today Robert Goren, because nobody gives a rats ass what you did yesterday. Promise too much and delver on only 90 % of what was promised, is a realistic outcome. Lower taxes and lower health care will have to be part of the equation, and then your fellow Americans will gladly push you off the cliff in droves. It is not rocket science getting job growth twice or three times of what it is today, ditching socialistic policy will accomplish much of the task. Yes we are in this mess today just because what you believe in has soured the job markets. I do think that you will get to see it, but not all will enjoy getting up every day early.
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10-26-2013, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by classhandicapper
Do you really need an IQ higher than a turnip to see where this is going as we keep heading towards the tipping point?
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History is replete with this very scenario, and "they" didn't get it either, until it was way too late....It won't change, I don't think , for a very long, long time...Hell it is only just beginning.....
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10-26-2013, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by newtothegame
So, without debating the merits of the story, I will just so yay! It seems we both agree the government is deceitful with their "numbers".
Now that you have agreed, stop telling us all how the government is the way to go...(by your own admission of deceit).
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You clearly did not understand my post. There was nothing wrong with the numbers provided by the government. The problem was with the way the MacIver studied interpreted them.
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10-26-2013, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by delayjf
I never said he designed the hat, but I'm sure he was shown some ideas and he picked the one he liked - probably between holes on the Golf course.
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Obama didn't design the hat. He didn't look at samples. He didn't pick the one he liked or the one he disliked. Chances are Obama has never even thought about Marine headgear. I am flabbergasted that anyone would think that a President would get involved in such a thing. I guess that's what they mean when they call Marines Jarheads. 
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