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Old 11-04-2022, 06:05 PM   #1
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Hmmmmmmmmmmm, no juice, and bafferts horses just don't have that extra kick

at the cali tracks, they are juiced out of their gourds, run fast, get hooked, and draw off.

the chemistry set stays home, and they get run over
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Old 11-04-2022, 06:24 PM   #2
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at the cali tracks, they are juiced out of their gourds, run fast, get hooked, and draw off.

the chemistry set stays home, and they get run over
Hernandez a second class rider went after 70/1 shot..

If this was baffert's top derby contender Hernandez wouldnt be riding
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Old 11-04-2022, 09:05 PM   #3
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Hernandez a second class rider went after 70/1 shot..

If this was baffert's top derby contender Hernandez wouldnt be riding
You are absolutely correct - there is no WAY Hernandez will be riding in the 2023 Derby for Baffert.
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Old 11-04-2022, 09:32 PM   #4
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at the cali tracks, they are juiced out of their gourds, run fast, get hooked, and draw off.

the chemistry set stays home, and they get run over
yea, bafferts shipping record is horrendous, they just dont perform. I made tons of cash betting against his horses on the road the past 30 years.
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Old 11-04-2022, 10:27 PM   #5
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Good

Had enough of him-can’t believe he is still allowed at so many tracks
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Old 11-04-2022, 10:27 PM   #6
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Hernandez a second class rider went after 70/1 shot..

If this was baffert's top derby contender Hernandez wouldnt be riding
Went after??

He had him in the 4 path under a hammer lock hold. Kept him out there because he knew CR would get even more pumped up if allowed to engage.

IMO he lost because he melted down mentally.

Pumped up in the paddock.

No focus in the warm up.

Way too late switching leads.

A trip over the main track was two for two today.

The best horse won.

I don't think JJ did anything wrong.
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Old 11-04-2022, 10:59 PM   #7
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Went after??

He had him in the 4 path under a hammer lock hold. Kept him out there because he knew CR would get even more pumped up if allowed to engage.

IMO he lost because he melted down mentally.

Pumped up in the paddock.

No focus in the warm up.

Way too late switching leads.

A trip over the main track was two for two today.

The best horse won.

I don't think JJ did anything wrong.

He excerted energy early he was running alongside the 1 to say the 1 didnt sting him a little bit...
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Old 11-05-2022, 10:55 AM   #8
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Went after??

He had him in the 4 path under a hammer lock hold. Kept him out there because he knew CR would get even more pumped up if allowed to engage.

IMO he lost because he melted down mentally.

Pumped up in the paddock.

No focus in the warm up.

Way too late switching leads.

A trip over the main track was two for two today.

The best horse won.

I don't think JJ did anything wrong.
Exactly right on. You are so correct on this IMO. Plus, you’re a very good handicapper anyway. you know what you’re talking about. I’ve been in a few tournaments where you kicked my ass. I haven’t ever won the free buy in yet but I know you have . I’m not great at those things . Forte looked to be faster anyway with a potent late established move for a young horse, he looked tons better in the paddock . Had the race over the track . Which I would also factor into todays races. I suggest people pay attention to the preps at Keenland and horses with prior success there. And for the way I bet . Horses matched that closely in my eyes. I’m betting the 9-2 over 3/5 or whatever ridiculous price the other horse was anyway . There’s no way in Gods green earth that the chance of winning was that far apart in that those odds reflected . I thought Forte was the legit favorite under those circumstances. I didn’t even make a wager until this race . And this race with the turf after were like stealing candy . Now I have reserved a nice bankroll to unload in todays card. Thanks Forte. When I see an odds differential like this . It’s a no brainer…….the best horse won . I’ve watched this horse progress right thru the ranks this summer . He can reserve and move already .
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Old 11-05-2022, 12:11 PM   #9
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Another, that would of drawn off at the cali tracks, but not at home, so no they get run down and faded.

It's amazing how the maiden special, you had 3 horse who shown speed, could go to lead, and they let bafferts 2.3million horse get an easy lead. The #10 ran the best race, any where near the lead and he runs by another baffert runner.


amazing how in cali, when juiced out of their gourds, they get hooked 3 wide, to fast quarters, and still draw off, but when pressed a little away from home, they get ran down
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Old 11-05-2022, 01:44 PM   #10
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A trip over the main track was two for two today.
One out of the first two winners today. Some other live ones in the next couple hours.

Actually, Goodnight Olive has a win at Kee a year ago.

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Old 11-05-2022, 01:52 PM   #11
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Old 11-06-2022, 07:48 AM   #12
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yea, bafferts shipping record is horrendous, they just dont perform. I made tons of cash betting against his horses on the road the past 30 years.
hmm- I guess American Pharoah didn't do so well shipping! seriously? he has a lot of success shipping horses-
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Old 11-06-2022, 11:53 AM   #14
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hmm- I guess American Pharoah didn't do so well shipping! seriously? he has a lot of success shipping horses-
also Arrogate
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also Arrogate
Yes of course the wonderful star-crossed Arrogate and how about all the Derbies Baffert has won plus Preakness and Belmont plus traveling abroad to Dubai--- honestly, some people's hate won't allow them to look at reality!!! oh well
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