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Old 10-04-2022, 10:46 AM   #1501
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Why no air support for the Ruskies?
Just a guess here, but the new AA weapons supplied by the West have proven to be too effective against RU planes? Or spare parts weren't readily available without cannibilizing the rest of the airforce. I've heard of similar problems with the motorized armor.
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Old 10-04-2022, 12:48 PM   #1502
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Why no air support for the Ruskies?
Because it's trash.

The performance of the Russian Air Force in this conflict since day one has been absolutely abysmal.

Ukraine are doing a lot of things right. Their unconventional use of a system like the Gepard for instance.

That said, the incompetence is astounding.
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Old 10-04-2022, 12:49 PM   #1503
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Just a guess here, but the new AA weapons supplied by the West have proven to be too effective against RU planes? Or spare parts weren't readily available without cannibilizing the rest of the airforce. I've heard of similar problems with the motorized armor.
We're definitely at the spare parts phase.

Ukrainian Air Force over performed and Russia was never able to really sniff out the S300 radars.

Also Ukrainians are clever. I mentioned the Gepard which is mostly shit but it's mobile. Ukrainians are using them as basically mobile radars. They drive around turn them on and see if they can find something. If they do a S300 battery powers up, takes a shot, and shuts back down. Gepard moves to a different spot.

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Old 10-04-2022, 07:47 PM   #1504
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Because it's trash.

The performance of the Russian Air Force in this conflict since day one has been absolutely abysmal.

Ukraine are doing a lot of things right. Their unconventional use of a system like the Gepard for instance.

That said, the incompetence is astounding.
This is making me so happy to see.

Putin unzipped Russia’s fly and revealed how horrible his forces really are…..

The Russian Air Forces have been rumored to be awful for years. They have very few spare parts (our Air Forces have a shortage too, but not as bad) and any engagement with the west over a few weeks long would be a devastating blow to Russia.

Do some research about our 5th generation fighters and you would realize that Russian planes wouldn’t last a week.
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This is making me so happy to see.

Putin unzipped Russia’s fly and revealed how horrible his forces really are…..

The Russian Air Forces have been rumored to be awful for years. They have very few spare parts (our Air Forces have a shortage too, but not as bad) and any engagement with the west over a few weeks long would be a devastating blow to Russia.

Do some research about our 5th generation fighters and you would realize that Russian planes wouldn’t last a week.
We need to have a real conversation about balance of power in our politics.

The air power example is the easiest example... in the same scenario I highlighted a minute ago the Gepard powers on and locates the predator drone. The S300 lights up to acquire it and take its shot.

Problem is... neither see the F22 or F35 flying SEAD that has a Anti-Radiation Missile out the chute within 5 seconds of those radars turning on.

I know it's popular, especially among the Putin-tolerant right at the moment (that will shift when politically convenient to the left), to complain that we should be focusing on China...

This conflict has shown us the Balance of Power in the world currently is as follows;

United States.
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China
India
France
UK(?... maybe Japan or South Korea)

Example 2;

We are witnessing what Ukraine is able to do with 18 HIMARS units...

We have five hundred and fifty of the fuckers.
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Old 10-05-2022, 01:16 AM   #1506
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This is a really good thread of what has happened over the last 24-36 hours in the Kherson Oblast. Also provides a good explanation of the strategies around combined arms and mechanized warfare.

This is pretty textbook what seems to be happening and I agree with most of what he is saying. Only one major difference so far.

If you look at the first image the town of Snihurivka is the key stone of the Russian defensive lines and there are now unconfirmed reports that Ukrainian forces are in the city. This would break the spine of their defensive line. A route ensues as Russian's will flee towards the city proper and coast where they'll be trapped.

https://twitter.com/noclador/status/...37yrDKdtQ5HVyg
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This is a really good thread of what has happened over the last 24-36 hours in the Kherson Oblast. Also provides a good explanation of the strategies around combined arms and mechanized warfare.

This is pretty textbook what seems to be happening and I agree with most of what he is saying. Only one major difference so far.

If you look at the first image the town of Snihurivka is the key stone of the Russian defensive lines and there are now unconfirmed reports that Ukrainian forces are in the city. This would break the spine of their defensive line. A route ensues as Russian's will flee towards the city proper and coast where they'll be trapped.

https://twitter.com/noclador/status/...37yrDKdtQ5HVyg
The Russian officer staff seem to be Iíll equipped to fight conventional warfare. The Ukrainian battle tactics are taught at every war college on the planet. I donít assume the Russian general staff is untrained so I must assume that they are miscalculating morale amongst the troops.
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The Russian officer staff seem to be Iíll equipped to fight conventional warfare. The Ukrainian battle tactics are taught at every war college on the planet. I donít assume the Russian general staff is untrained so I must assume that they are miscalculating morale amongst the troops.
Morale has to play a huge part.

Plus it's just overall structure of the armed force when the bulk of your soldiers are conscripts who are only in for a year and get training on the job... only catch there is no real NCO pool.

I can't stress how fucked it is they are taking men off the streets my age (late 30s), giving them a days worth of training, a rifle, and sending them to the front.

You have to really detest your own people to do stuff like that.
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I can't stress how fucked it is they are taking men off the streets my age (late 30s), giving them a days worth of training, a rifle, and sending them to the front.

You have to really detest your own people to do stuff like that.
Seems to this observer that this method is working out great for Ukraine.

Isn't that basically what they did shortly after the start of the war?

If you are to believe the news reports, that is.

What say you?
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Seems to this observer that this method is working out great for Ukraine.

Isn't that basically what they did shortly after the start of the war?

If you are to believe the news reports, that is.

What say you?
Nooo.... not at all.

The Ukrainian approach to military unit training and cohesion is the polar opposite of what Russia is doing.

In addition to that they created the Territorial Army for this exact scenario.

Its literally night and day opposite of what the Russians are doing.

I think you're referring to closing the borders and a gun for everyone who wants one which is completely different than getting some yokel from Siberia. A dude who possibly doesn't speak Ukrainian or Russian, giving him a rifle, and sticking him in a trench.
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I remember predictions in the media of a two week war
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I remember predictions in the media of a two week war
I remember predictions on a Friday that Kiev would fall by Monday and what country Zelensky would flee to. My. My. My.
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I remember predictions in the media of a two week war
I figured a month or two.

My prediction was Russia would defeat Ukraine and the government of the latter would cease to exist in any real capacity. Eventually Russia would be forced to withdraw after a long and very bloody insurgency a la Afghanistan.

That prediction was proven wrong quite early. Recall posting about it.
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Morale has to play a huge part.

Plus it's just overall structure of the armed force when the bulk of your soldiers are conscripts who are only in for a year and get training on the job... only catch there is no real NCO pool.

I can't stress how fucked it is they are taking men off the streets my age (late 30s), giving them a days worth of training, a rifle, and sending them to the front.

You have to really detest your own people to do stuff like that.
Since I've gotten my war news primarily off Twitter, take this with a grain of salt. I read earlier this week that some of the new RU conscripts have already been shipped to Ukraine, and some immediately surrendered. Sounds like bs, but who knows.

I also read(more believable) that probable conscripts have been gathering info on how to surrender if they're sent to Ukraine.
Ukraine recently pubished that enemy losses are 61,000. Russian sources say it's closer to 20K. So 30-40K may be the number. And Ukr didn't say that it was 61K killed, but no longer combatants.
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