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Old 08-24-2022, 11:55 PM   #16
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Old 08-25-2022, 12:16 AM   #17
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No chance

I'll lay 12-1 on Rich Strike to any board members, and I'll give everyone $200 credit.


Saratoga.
From what I see , many horses finishing 15 lengths back. It appears (could be wrong), it's fillers. Some nice horses but a lot of average horses at Saratoga this year. Subpar stock.
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Old 08-25-2022, 11:31 AM   #18
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I'll lay 12-1 on Rich Strike to any board members, and I'll give everyone $200 credit.


Saratoga.
From what I see , many horses finishing 15 lengths back. It appears (could be wrong), it's fillers. Some nice horses but a lot of average horses at Saratoga this year. Subpar stock.
Itís fillers Suff. Saratoga has the same problems of shortage that everyone has. But people canít resist the atmosphere, prestige and money here. Theyíll enter a hope and a dream.

Rich Strike will need pace help in this race . Adding to my post about Zandon. When you see him ( heís built like a brick shit house), Compared to Early Voting I can see why this was their Derby Horse. Physically has it all just needs to put this game together mentally. I really like his chances at this distance Saturday.
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I don't think he's going to run very well, but I will say this for him- he's really cute.

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Old 08-25-2022, 12:03 PM   #20
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I'll lay 12-1 on Rich Strike to any board members, and I'll give everyone $200 credit.


Saratoga.
From what I see , many horses finishing 15 lengths back. It appears (could be wrong), it's fillers. Some nice horses but a lot of average horses at Saratoga this year. Subpar stock.
What's the difference between Saratoga in August and Aqueduct in February?

The chance of snow.

Been underwhelmed with meet so far.
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Old 08-25-2022, 02:16 PM   #21
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What's the difference between Saratoga in August and Aqueduct in February?

The chance of snow.

Been underwhelmed with meet so far.
extracting just Saratoga 2022 races from the current 167 race database
following the money with a bet in every race. handicapping the wps and exacta pools

Win bets: 8 wins in 15 races $1 return $0.99

exacta bets: 8 wins in 23 races, $1 return $1.11

looking forward to Saturday's card.
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Assuming all 8 horses run, where will Rich Strike finish? I will say 7th.
I bet my buddy 10 dollars Rich Strike won't hit the board. Also if he wins, I promised to get on my knees, bow down and say, "Im not worthy".

I bet Cyberknife in the Derby and Haskell. So Im betting him again in the Travers.
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Old 08-25-2022, 09:37 PM   #23
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What's the difference between Saratoga in August and Aqueduct in February?

The chance of snow.

Been underwhelmed with meet so far.

I received email at 3:30 today from trackrentals.com

I'm semi literate in renting houses at Saratoga. I can't recall any houses still available this late.

I'm not actually sure why. Could be many factors.




3:30 on Thursday, August 25th.




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What's the difference between Saratoga in August and Aqueduct in February?

The chance of snow.

Been underwhelmed with meet so far.
With all due respect, Tom, you're in the minority. We're handling over $21 million a day ( and that's money bet on our races, not the phony handle CA tracks post every day that double counts simulcast dollars bet on other tracks ) and our biggest day of the meet is in two days.
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I must be in the minority as well because Iím with Tom on this one. I think the meet has been a bit disappointing. It is what it is I supposeÖ iíd still take Saratoga over most meets running right now besides a couple maybeÖ. but Saratoga has set a high standard for itself over the years so Iím grading on a different curve. I suppose itís probably more of a commentary on racing in general than anything specific to only Saratoga. Eric
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For those up in Toga right now, are we handicapping for some off track races tomorrow? Forecast shows rain off and on but that again is just the forecast. I would think they would maybe save the turf for Saturday if they get some decent rain tomorrow. Just sitting down to cap the races and wanted to get some thoughts.

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With all due respect, Tom, you're in the minority. We're handling over $21 million a day ( and that's money bet on our races, not the phony handle CA tracks post every day that double counts simulcast dollars bet on other tracks ) and our biggest day of the meet is in two days.

But wouldn't $25 million a day be better?
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Perhaps Early Voting is a horse that needs is a target to run at like he got in the Preakness, nevertheless, in this spot he should be able to control the pace again.

He has the added advantage of another furlong, which may allow him to slow the tempo down a bit more (and take some starch out of the others' late moves). Furthermore, he may have been written him off based on his Jim Dandy wilt, which could mean no one will elect to press him early. Only Epicenter and Cyberknife really have the early speed to keep him honest, but they've been making a killing coming well off the pace in their most recent starts.

Early Voting was likely short for the Jim Dandy but he responded when challenged on all sides in upper stretch, only falling back for good once his jockey wrapped up on him inside the 1/16th pole.
I know it's bad handicapping to put to much stock into one race, but the jim d was not a fast pace. Early Voting should have pulled away from those dogs. I'm going to buy the standard trainer excuse that he doesn't like the track.
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Some of the dirt stakes have been disappointing because of the field size or because they contain a dominant favorite and imo there are too many turf stakes where Chad Brown has 2-3 entrants in a not so large field and you know he's sending one and the others are going to stay out each other's way and not push the leader either. There's something about that that leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I don't think it has been the best meet for gambling in some of those types of races, but a lot people obviously disagree because someone is betting all that money.
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I know it's bad handicapping to put to much stock into one race, but the jim d was not a fast pace. Early Voting should have pulled away from those dogs. I'm going to buy the standard trainer excuse that he doesn't like the track.
I haven't been the biggest Early Voting fan.

I think you can make a reasonable case that speed was better than average and the rail was the best path Wood Memorial day but he still got caught by Mo Donegal (although MD did close from far out up the rail).

I think you can make a reasonable case that Pimlico was carrying speed types well Preakness day and may have helped carry him to that big figure.

The Jim Dandy track condition wasn't what I would call "biased" but imo it was more testing than average and certainly more testing than for either of the efforts that gave him his reputation.

What he has going for him tomorrow is that he'll probably be loose again and maybe the track will be a little kinder to him and he'll be a bit fitter. We'll have plenty of races to watch before the Travers. I'm most curious as to how he's going to get bet.
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