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Old 08-21-2022, 05:14 PM   #16
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oh yeah, nice job yesterday, picking against Echo Again and Nest

how well you handicap indeed

next you'll take credit for the record wagering levels in US horse racing because you convinced people to bet against two superstars
Handicapper picks favorites and people complain. Handicapper picks against favorites and people still complain. Give him credit for going outside the box even if he was wrong. Did you really need another person telling you that Echo Again and Nest were locks?
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Old 08-21-2022, 08:54 PM   #17
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I know that's what I want in my handicappers. Put me on to those odds-on favorites where I can make pennies on the dollar!
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Old 08-21-2022, 11:00 PM   #18
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The F & M division is as solid as I recall in many years. Really can't wait to the fall races at Aqueduct and then the Breeder's Cup.


Looking at Nest's last two races, visually speaking anyway, I am now of the opinion that with a better start, Nest just may have won the Belmont Stakes at the expense of Mo Donegal.



Just my opinion, obviously.
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Old 08-21-2022, 11:11 PM   #19
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She's not even the likely favorite for the Distaff. This is really silly stuff.
I actually think she'd be favored right now in the Distaff. Malathaat and Clariere don't have that wow factor. But the Classic talk is silly, she'd get dusted if the top males make it to the race. That obviously isn't a gimme.
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Old 08-22-2022, 12:17 PM   #20
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Looking at Nest's last two races, visually speaking anyway, I am now of the opinion that with a better start, Nest just may have won the Belmont Stakes at the expense of Mo Donegal.



Just my opinion, obviously.
I don't think that's an extreme opinion.

She is VERY GOOD as far as 3yo fillies go. I don't think Mo Donegal is at the top of the 3yo colt division. IMO it's at least very close based on that result and what we've seen since reinforces your opinion.
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I'm wondering if we'll see a meeting between Nest and Moira before the Distaff.
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Old 08-22-2022, 01:10 PM   #22
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I'm wondering if we'll see a meeting between Nest and Moira before the Distaff.
I want to see Moira run on dirt before I make a comparison. I hope she runs in the Prince of Wales which is on dirt. Then we might be able to glean more. That being said here pedigree suggests dirt won't be an isuue, Ghostzapper/Unbridled's Song
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Old 08-23-2022, 01:02 PM   #23
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A) If you need a public handicapper to gauge this horseÖÖ.. you need to keep studying . I mean , cmon, if you are basing your opinion on that. Been doing this any length of time . Whatís the point? Your not interested in learning yourself. Just my opinion but Iíve been doing this for over 40 years. I can win or lose a race in my own now.

B) Of course this horse can win the Distaff. Christ, people canít remember yesterday around here. That race was a total pace, meltdown last year. Some of the same speed is still around. If the race shapes up like last years running. She has a huge shot.

But of course many people would rather bicker than actually analyze a race for themselves.
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