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Old 09-13-2021, 02:16 PM   #196
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If you do not know you are hopeless.
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Old 09-13-2021, 02:19 PM   #197
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LOL, pot meet kettle!!!!!!!
I will gladly carry buckets for the well-being of a Sport I love. You keep carrying buckets for your Ideology. There is just a bit of a difference.

I appreciate you stalking me. I actually think higher of you. Nothing backhanded about that either.
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Old 09-13-2021, 02:21 PM   #198
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Color me Hopeless.



If you think you are winning points for taking up for someone else around here...you are sadly mistaken.
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Old 09-13-2021, 02:21 PM   #199
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OK your hopeless. Appreciate that, but stalking is a crime.

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Old 09-13-2021, 02:26 PM   #200
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I will gladly carry buckets for the well-being of a Sport I love. You keep carrying buckets for your Ideology. There is just a bit of a difference.

I appreciate you stalking me. I actually think higher of you. Nothing backhanded about that either.
Well I appreciate that I think! LOL!

Out of honest curiousity, what ideology is it that I seem to be carrying buckets for in the post here, or the others one about the chants to PA. I simply stated that it happened in a FEW stadiums and that it was a particularily vocal minority who had stated them. There was nothing partisan, political or ideological about it

Then on this thread , you stated

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Why are you so lathered up, anyway, about something I said TO SOMEONE ELSE???
Which is EXACTLY what you did to me on another thread, so I replied Pot meet Kettle.

Also not ideological??
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Old 09-13-2021, 02:26 PM   #201
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OK your hopeless. Appreciate that, but stalking is a crime.
Ummm...how am I stalking you? We are only one one thread.
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Old 09-13-2021, 02:29 PM   #202
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You are definitely not! I believe you accused me.
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Old 09-13-2021, 02:30 PM   #203
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You are definitely not! I believe you accused me.
No he accused me, and to a degree, he was correct. LOL
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Old 09-13-2021, 02:31 PM   #204
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Well I appreciate that I think! LOL!

Out of honest curiousity, what ideology is it that I seem to be carrying buckets for in the post here, or the others one about the chants to PA. I simply stated that it happened in a FEW stadiums and that it was a particularily vocal minority who had stated them. There was nothing partisan, political or ideological about it

Then on this thread , you stated



Which is EXACTLY what you did to me on another thread, so I replied Pot meet Kettle.




Also not ideological??
That would be the Ideology that constantly tries to get out in front of something that is perceived as detrimental to said Ideology, to undercut it or diminish the significance of said something (Chants against President Biden). Which is the side you are on...as you should be, if you believe in it. I just call it out. Don't be mad. I don't get mad when I am called out for my side.

I also answered that on that particular thread, Stalker. You conveniently left that out. Your "side" does that...a LOT.
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Pardon me. mhaney

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Old 09-13-2021, 03:25 PM   #206
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That would be the Ideology that constantly tries to get out in front of something that is perceived as detrimental to said Ideology, to undercut it or diminish the significance of said something (Chants against President Biden). Which is the side you are on...as you should be, if you believe in it. I just call it out. Don't be mad. I don't get mad when I am called out for my side.

I also answered that on that particular thread, Stalker. You conveniently left that out. Your "side" does that...a LOT.
Which side was that, I don't recall stating a side? You just presume I'm on one side or another. I am not a Biden fan if you are trying to say that, I am also not a Trump fan, I'm in the middle somewhere. Get some candidates that are not megalomaniacs and/or senile and I might jump on board. Someone somewhere mentioned Nikki Haley and Tim Scott, I might possibly get on board with that.
When I said senile, I WAS referring to Biden if it matters, he clowned the Afghanistan withdrawal like no other, although, I am not sold on the fact that his predecessor would have done any better.
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Old 09-13-2021, 07:05 PM   #207
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I could never see the value of spending every waking moment dedicated to tearing down people in the sport we enjoy.
What? A sport that exists because people bet money on it shouldn't clean out the cheaters? Acting like it's not a big deal is better for the sport?

And more importantly this is a sport that involves animals who have no voice at all. I don't care if it's a small cheater or a big cheater. A trainer who yells at his horse or beats it. All of the trash needs to be taken out.
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Old 09-13-2021, 07:12 PM   #208
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What's pitiful is the way some people excuse his record at the expense of the Industry and the expense of the Horses he trains.
If you have a case, then prosecute. If you don't have enough for a case then Shut up till you do. That is what is pitiful.
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If you have a case, then prosecute. If you don't have enough for a case then Shut up till you do. That is what is pitiful.
Against informed opinions speaking freely?
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Old 09-13-2021, 07:20 PM   #210
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Straw man narrative. Doping horses has nothing to do with abusing children. This is quite different. Nyra has trainers in their own circuit that dope horses on a regular basis but won't ban them. Can you explain why? Because it wouls affect their bottom line. If Pletcher, Brown or Mott were caught doing the same thing I doubt Nyra would do anything. Those trainers provide Nyra with a lot of horses. Baffert does not.
Doping horses and abusing children are in fact highly analogous.

Part of what underlies your position is that you don't seem to care about the welfare of the animals or the fact that a trainer has an obligation not to give them dangerous, illegal substances.

This is not just a game and about who wins the races- doping is a huge betrayal of this sport's obligation to the innocent animals who run so hard for our entertainment.

It's exactly like the child abusing babysitter.
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