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Old 03-26-2019, 09:27 PM   #31
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Does the no whip apply to Golden Gate too ?

Wouldn't that make a great cartoon ?
The jockey in the walking ring (reign in hand) on his knees, begging the horse to give it his all.
The horse with a sly grin - " Shure Buddy ".
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Old 03-27-2019, 12:46 AM   #32
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Can we just do away with the jocks? =)
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Old 03-27-2019, 12:50 AM   #33
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Can we just do away with the jocks? =)
Yes finally!!!!!! Monkeys will ride!!!
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Old 03-27-2019, 12:51 AM   #34
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Old 03-27-2019, 12:55 AM   #35
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No whips?

My peanut gallery comment.

I can't see it. You can't handle a horse without one and be safe. Its deadly dangerous.

I'm warmer to the theory that Stronach doesn't want the place.
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Old 03-27-2019, 08:24 PM   #36
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drone jocks are on their way
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Old 03-28-2019, 03:34 AM   #37
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Hearing that they will compromise and use international rules as to number of times a horse can be hit
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Old 03-28-2019, 12:42 PM   #38
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I'm just worried this fires up PETA to get the low 600,000 signature barrier to banning the sport. They are pissed about this and carry more weight than the industry does there.
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Old 03-28-2019, 01:17 PM   #39
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I'm just worried this fires up PETA to get the low 600,000 signature barrier to banning the sport. They are pissed about this and carry more weight than the industry does there.
PETA’s response to the possible compromise was “They better not,” and a bunch of other misinformed nonsense.

This is where California needs to get a backbone and decide they are not going to let PETA dictate to them. Especially since PETA was non existent during the San Luis Rey fire.
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Old 03-28-2019, 01:19 PM   #40
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Are the new bug boys not allowed to carry whips and still win races .?
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Old 03-28-2019, 01:30 PM   #41
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PETA’s response to the possible compromise was “They better not,” and a bunch of other misinformed nonsense.

This is where California needs to get a backbone and decide they are not going to let PETA dictate to them. Especially since PETA was non existent during the San Luis Rey fire.
I don't think you understand. PETA is popular here. Santa Anita used to be, but not so much anymore.

So concessions to PETA are the only way the sport survives here.
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Old 03-28-2019, 02:04 PM   #42
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Every horsewoman/man I know hates peta. But they are on this bandwagon. No other horse sport uses whips like we do. They don’t want our bad optics bringing bad light on their horse sports. So it is not just nutter peta pushing this.

Bad optics killed orca shows,circuses and dog racing.
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Old 03-28-2019, 02:07 PM   #43
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PETA’s response to the possible compromise was “They better not,” and a bunch of other misinformed nonsense.

This is where California needs to get a backbone and decide they are not going to let PETA dictate to them. Especially since PETA was non existent during the San Luis Rey fire.
The thing is, if PETA points out the many questionable ethical things going on in racing---and we've pointed them out here over and over again, so it's not like they have to make them up---no one is going to remember their lack of assistance after the fire. We all know they are inconsistent and at times purely unethical, but the current situation with breakdowns is going to win the day. Between the breakdowns and drugging, the value of land in California, the in-fighting in the Stronach empire, etc., racing is more vulnerable than you think.
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Old 03-28-2019, 04:12 PM   #44
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Listening to the CHRB meeting now, so much for a compromise. Proposed rule would ban use of the crop "except when necessary to control the horse for the safety of the horse or rider."

Representative from the Jockeys Guild speaks up in opposition, and is torn apart by Winner and Auerbach.

Very clear that California is running scared from PETA...who, coincidentally, has someone speaking at the meeting right now in support of the new rule.
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Old 03-28-2019, 04:52 PM   #45
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drone jocks are on their way
Not crazy. When you think Hail Mary. Life or death now. What are some crazy ideas that might kill it quick or light a fire?
No idea to much.

Drone Jockeys I like.

Cloning, DNA editing ( Xbleeding chromosomes), Artificial Skeletal Parts. Medical research. Turn them into part machine-part living being.
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