S8? Really?

[ranchwest]

Originally Posted by Robert Fischer

haven't used bris speed designations in a while, and don't know how common they are, but E 0, E 1, E 2 type of horses are a real thing. Chase and fade.

An S 8, or assuming a 'plodder' with top speed points doesn't really make sense.

E0, E1 and E2 do not suggest chase and fade. E means generally Early. The number tallies the early forwardly positions in the last 3 races... up to 5 races if some races have a bye, earning 0 to 8 points for the 3 ratable races. 1 point is automatic, but can be wiped out to become 0. Nothing about running style or speed points has anything to do with fade; it's all about early.

[46zilzal]

rarely, most often on grass, there is the LATE running style.

[ranchwest]

Originally Posted by 46zilzal

rarely, most often on grass, there is the LATE running style.

There are Sustained running style horses on all surfaces… hardly rare.

[Robert Fischer]

Originally Posted by ranchwest

E0, E1 and E2 do not suggest chase and fade. E means generally Early. The number tallies the early forwardly positions in the last 3 races... up to 5 races if some races have a bye, earning 0 to 8 points for the 3 ratable races. 1 point is automatic, but can be wiped out to become 0. Nothing about running style or speed points has anything to do with fade; it's all about early.

nothing inherent in the speed points to suggest a fading quality, but unless an E1 or whatever has dropped really far to meet their class level, we'll generally be seeing these rare speed point designations in chase and fade styles. They can't get a foothold in races and they're doing their running early.