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Old 08-11-2023, 11:16 PM   #46
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NYRA would never allow the calamity which is occurring right now prior to race 5 at Delmar.

Two horses scratched at gate.
Yea, NYRA would never

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Old 08-12-2023, 01:27 PM   #47
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Problem with Saratoga is it is too close to Canada, Tapeta and it is dead. The track Superintendent is just a cheep rendition of what a track Superintendent was in Saratoga's better times.
What's Canada have to do with it? Maybe you enjoy betting 4 horse fields when they are rained off the turf. You have to adjust with the times and grow, otherwise you die. Saratoga is just as close to New Hampshire as it is to Canada, So what's your point? Do you even have horse racing in New Hampshire?
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Old 08-12-2023, 08:21 PM   #48
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NYRA gate crew are best in the business. We all agree. Right?
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Old 08-12-2023, 08:24 PM   #49
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NYRA gate crew are best in the business. We all agree. Right?
There was a mess of a baby race today.
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Old 08-12-2023, 09:16 PM   #50
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There was a mess of a baby race today.
which we both agree was successfully handled.
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Old 08-12-2023, 10:53 PM   #51
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NYRA gate crew are best in the business. We all agree. Right?
I mean probably, its the highest level so that is the expectation, assume they are the highest paid as well.......but rating every gate crew in america is not an endeavor I have taken up.
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Old 08-14-2023, 06:42 PM   #52
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I mean probably, its the highest level so that is the expectation, assume they are the highest paid as well.......but rating every gate crew in america is not an endeavor I have taken up.
Maybe the higher pay brings more competent employees to New York.
Nonetheless I admire what they do. I could never do that job.
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Old 08-15-2023, 11:08 PM   #53
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Saratoga is the preeminent race meeting in North America.
There is no argument.
Weather is something that is part of the sport. An element that can only be dealt with. Not controlled.
Id be willing to bet a large amount of cash that if asked horsemen and owners would want to take their horses to Del Mar or to Saratoga, they are picking Saratoga.
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Old 08-15-2023, 11:11 PM   #54
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Saratoga has run 46 races with 6 betting interests or less in 13 days, Del Mar has run 5 races with 6 betting interests or less in 6 days but it doesn't matter to the bettors. Saratoga's handle is always going to be higher than Del Mar's.
Let us put that into context.
A good number of short fields at the Spa in 2023 were due to races taken off the turf.
This has been a very rainy summer in Upstate NY.
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Old 08-15-2023, 11:25 PM   #55
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Nonsense. The fields are small before the rain and vet scratches. Those just make them even smaller. And now the cards are filled with cheap claiming races and those awful 1M chute races which are maybe the most boring thing offered in racing today.

And yes Iím not forced to bet Saratoga but they should want to offer a good betting product? Radical concept right?
8/18 Entries
DMR 8 races 79 entered..just under 10 per race
SAR 10 races 102 entered. just over 10 starters per race
8/17 Entries
DMR 8 Races 69 entered,,,,,8.39 per race
SAR 10 races 94 entered.....9.4 per race.
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Old 08-16-2023, 08:27 PM   #56
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Let us put that into context.
A good number of short fields at the Spa in 2023 were due to races taken off the turf.
This has been a very rainy summer in Upstate NY.
They only had two 4 horse fields today, so that wasnít too bad for a weekday.
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Old 08-16-2023, 09:51 PM   #57
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They only had two 4 horse fields today, so that wasnít too bad for a weekday.
And both were originally scheduled for dirt.
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Old 08-17-2023, 07:32 PM   #58
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8/18 Entries
DMR 8 races 79 entered..just under 10 per race
SAR 10 races 102 entered. just over 10 starters per race
8/17 Entries
DMR 8 Races 69 entered,,,,,8.39 per race
SAR 10 races 94 entered.....9.4 per race.
9.4 per race ended up being 7.0 after scratches.
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Old 08-19-2023, 11:44 PM   #59
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9.4 per race ended up being 7.0 after scratches.
SO?
I thought the subject matter was short fields due to lower numbers of horses entered?
You're moving the goal posts.
That I will not allow.
If you want to discuss this rationally, stay on point. If you want to run a narrative exposing your bias toward DelMar, don't waste my time.
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Old 08-19-2023, 11:58 PM   #60
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8/18 Entries
DMR 8 races 79 entered..just under 10 per race
SAR 10 races 102 entered. just over 10 starters per race
8/17 Entries
DMR 8 Races 69 entered,,,,,8.39 per race
SAR 10 races 94 entered.....9.4 per race.
Now do it after scratches.
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