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03-06-2023, 08:13 PM
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You're right, Lightheaded. I have no idea why I thought you were an arrogant ass. 
And please please please...start handicapping with Meadow's mindset.
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03-07-2023, 12:50 AM
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I see you've gotten OVER your bitterness. (Get it...OVER, as in your video).
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03-08-2023, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
I would gladly pick up the dinner tab if I could sit down and converse about horseracing with a horseplayer that I respect. And this includes Barry Meadow...or Andy Beyer...or James Quinn. It also includes some of the members here, like Andy Serling...Cj...PA-Mike...and the Mountainman. That's what an investment in a good handicapping book is to me: A chance to listen to the thoughts of an honest and seasoned player who has been through the gambling wars that I too have participated in for far too long...for the price of a meal in a cheap restaurant.
I don't particularly look for "answers" when I read handicapping books. Sometimes the right question lights a little bulb inside my head...and I find a way to the "answer" all by myself. That proves to be a more satisfying experience...IMO.  |
When we do have dinner, I commence picking YOUR brain before the server even takes our beverage order. And I get the tab.
Just started the Meadow book, btw.
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03-08-2023, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by mountainman
When we do have dinner, I commence picking YOUR brain before the server even takes our beverage order. And I get the tab.
Just started the Meadow book, btw.
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Stick with it...because it's slow going in the beginning. Meadow has a folksy way of writing which might put off the "sophisticated" player. I started reading it...and then put it on the shelf for more than a year. 
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03-18-2023, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Light
He doesn't like me.
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I can't imagine why....
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03-20-2023, 10:09 AM
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what an easy game.
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Originally Posted by Tom
This might help....he put this lut a few years ago......
The 4 and 5 workout he describes is very goof. I use it on every race to this day.
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The table of contents is impressive work on your part.
Yesterday, Amazon had 3 hard copies left.
I'm inclined to use the Kindle issue.
So do I have to spend $20. to find out if the analysis includes a incremental odds break down for each, lets say for each chapter, something along the lines of proper statical analysis, or can you tell me?
thanks
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03-20-2023, 12:24 PM
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give me 15 an i tell ya 
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03-20-2023, 05:41 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Incremental odds breakdown, no.
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Who does the Racing Form Detective like in this one?
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03-20-2023, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by formula_2002
The table of contents is impressive work on your part.
Yesterday, Amazon had 3 hard copies left.
I'm inclined to use the Kindle issue.
So do I have to spend $20. to find out if the analysis includes a incremental odds break down for each, lets say for each chapter, something along the lines of proper statical analysis, or can you tell me?
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i purchased the kindle format. for the price of taking mr meadows out for a lunch, the research he presents is well worth it. if nothing else it gives new thoughts, on how to look at the subjects it covers.
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03-20-2023, 11:00 PM
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what an easy game.
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Incremental odds breakdown, no.
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thanks
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03-20-2023, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by acorn54
the research he presents is well worth it. if nothing else it gives new thoughts, on how to look at the subjects it covers.
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All his research ever says in the book is that EVERY horse racing angle or method has a losing ROI any way you cut it. But that has been known for centuries by everyone who ever existed on this planet. How is that something "new" to you.
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03-20-2023, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Light
All his research ever says in the book is that EVERY horse racing angle or method has a losing ROI any way you cut it. But that has been known for centuries by everyone who ever existed on this planet. How is that something "new" to you.
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i'm sorry you were disappointed with the book. if you purchased through amazon ,i think you can get your money back.
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03-21-2023, 12:31 AM
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crusty old guy
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Don't worry about Lighthead, acorn54. He just likes to be combative in every thread. He's just another know-it-all here who doesn't know shit but has convinced himself that he is brilliant.
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03-21-2023, 01:02 AM
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i'm sorry you were disappointed with the book. if you purchased through amazon ,i think you can get your money back.
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I'm not worried about the money. But it looks like you cannot answer the question. What did you learn from the book that you did not know before?
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03-21-2023, 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by headhawg
Don't worry about Lighthead, acorn54. He just likes to be combative in every thread. He's just another know-it-all here who doesn't know shit but has convinced himself that he is brilliant.
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You're obviously the combative one. First I am a "Lighthead" and then someone who doesn't know shit.
Yet I've never derided you. Just disagreed with your opinion.
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