The DQ (or non-DQ) complaint thread - Page 148 - Horse Racing Forum - PaceAdvantage.Com

cj · 09-21-2023, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mdnspecialist

HorseShow Race 4....They DQ the 9 after they had an over view look. The
three horses inside were just about connected together. The 8 tries to shoot the gap in front of those three. He can't make it and they say it was the nines fault while he was already four wide entering the turn. 90 dollars in winnings down the drain.

This was a ridiculous DQ.

You can view it here: https://www.caesars.com/horseshoe-in...o/race-replays

SBD400 · 09-21-2023, 08:24 PM

That is awful. 9 was in front of the other horses, what happens on a tight turn with a bunch of horses in traffic behind is their problem, not the 9s problem.

SBD400 · 09-21-2023, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mdnspecialist

HorseShow Race 4....They DQ the 9 after they had an over view look. The
three horses inside were just about connected together. The 8 tries to shoot the gap in front of those three. He can't make it and they say it was the nines fault while he was already four wide entering the turn. 90 dollars in winnings down the drain.

I would be livid if I hit a longshot like that and was robbed like that.

thespaah · 09-22-2023, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mdnspecialist

HorseShow Race 4....They DQ the 9 after they had an over view look. The
three horses inside were just about connected together. The 8 tries to shoot the gap in front of those three. He can't make it and they say it was the nines fault while he was already four wide entering the turn. 90 dollars in winnings down the drain.

THat DQ was effing BRUTAL....No way did the

cause any of that incident entering the first turn. The to add to the idocy, the rider of the

claims foul against the

..WHAAAAAA?!!!! The

was not even in the same area code ..WTF

thespaah · 09-22-2023, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by IamNewt

Eventually Irad will endanger the wrong guy and he'll get clocked in the jock's room.

Maybe Jeffrey Fell can give him a lesson?

Or Julie Krone. I remember her getting into a fist fight with I believe Art Madrid.

IamNewt · 09-25-2023, 10:30 PM

Re: Jeff Fell.

The story goes that Jeff preferred the company of men rather than the ladies. Some south of the border jocks decided to give him a hard time over his preferences and Jeff locked the jock's room door and whipped them all.

wisconsin · 10-02-2023, 04:47 PM

Wow Just wow another head scratcher this time at Ind Race 3

and

head to head, the

drifts out after some brushing by the

, but not once, but twice and got up for an intimidating type of win.

I can't remember carrying a horse out like this and collecting.

The inconsistency continues throughout racing, and I am sorry to say, it's driving me away.

alhattab · 10-02-2023, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by wisconsin

Wow Just wow another head scratcher this time at Ind Race 3

and

head to head, the

drifts out after some brushing by the

, but not once, but twice and got up for an intimidating type of win.

I can't remember carrying a horse out like this and collecting.

The inconsistency continues throughout racing, and I am sorry to say, it's driving me away.

I thought the 8 came in 1st and the real heavy bump was after the finish. Had no interest

Jeff P · 10-22-2023, 06:55 PM

----Pan Shot:

----Head On:

Interesting on air comments afterwards.

Full disclosure: I actually bet #7 MISTER J T, knew he was loaded, strike that... knew is too strong a word... believed he was loaded, and after seeing the second bump in the head on replay, also believed the stewards had no choice but to DQ #7 and place him behind #9.

-jp
.

the little guy · 10-22-2023, 07:43 PM

Thankfully the Stewards got it right. I can't imagine any actual bettor that wants to live in a world where a winner gets taken down in those circumstances. In my opinion that would be borderline criminal.

Robert Fischer · 10-22-2023, 08:32 PM

Irad was a prodigy in Puerto Rico and came to the US to try to be a good jockey *New York horns and "Puerto Rico!!! OHHHHHHH!!!"*

Sorry. Irad was a prodigy, and he came to New York, and everyone told him to "Keep moving foe-ward". Irad has grown into one of the top 100 riders of all time, possibly high on the list.

When he's boxed in and loaded for bear, Irad is allowed to smash through.

You try to keep him inside of you? He can then smash your horse.

He had the best horse and trip (other than finding himself boxed in traffiic).

At the end of the day, You bet that horse, you want to get paid.

At the end of the day, I go to sleep ( so I can keep moving foe-ward tomorrow ).

cj · 10-22-2023, 09:14 PM

I'll side with Mig on this one. I don't want more DQs, but this guy is a menace to horses and riders and to a lesser extent bettors. He is basically allowed to cheat to win, something not afforded other riders on the same circuit.

I guess you could argue if the stewards won't do anything all the riders should ride like Irad. But is that really what we want for a sport, something resembling the scene from Seabiscuit where Red Pollard is riding at the bush track?

Robert Fischer · 10-23-2023, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by cj

something resembling the scene from Seabiscuit where Red Pollard is riding at the bush track?

Unsublimated, eventually a clipped heels, an unseated rider , or worse... ends the fun of 'bumper car' racing.

There is a code of generally accepted rules in the Sport of Kings.

The elephant in the room;
The

Mr Phil clearly wins, had the

not gotten out of traffic.

A random foul of a non-contender like this

that was fouled does Not cost a placing.

In this race the

was kept off the contested pace to save horse, and then when he ended up boxed in - he used the foul to free his horse from the traffic.

Meanwhile the

Mr Phil attended the pace, won the battle and was instantly overhauled by the fresh

... The

then kept on, and was a clear uncontested 2nd.

The

looked much the best! He could have won wide, and he may have slipped through as the

tired and still nailed the

! The 7 was the best horse in the race today.

However the foul was the method that Irad used to get through the traffic in this instance. The foul cost the

a placing.