The official Obama collapsing thread

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by horses4courses

And yet, THIS President can barely score approval ratings better than (in your words) one of our worst presidents of all time, George W. Bush.

Forget about conservatives...how come the American public hasn't bought into him? Why are his approval ratings so low if indeed he has been such a miracle worker, as your graphic is trying to convince us that he is?

Riddle me that.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by horses4courses

Laugh it up, and keep worshiping your war criminals.

Obama has plenty of blood on his hands, and would be regarded as a war criminal as well, if only he had the (R) next to his name, instead of the beloved (D).

How many innocent people has he killed with all those drone strikes on sovereign nations that we are NOT officially at war with? After all, Congress has to declare war, right buddy?

Also, how many American soldiers have died in Afghanistan since Obama moved into the White House...compare that to Bush...

Obama 1657 vs. Bush 575

If you can find substantially different statistics, bring em' on.

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Forget about conservatives...how come the American public hasn't bought into him? Why are his approval ratings so low if indeed he has been such a miracle worker, as your graphic is trying to convince us that he is?

And for some inconceivable reason, the approval ratings for his policies, taken one by one, are even lower than his overall approval ratings. I can only assume that to mean that there are people that still have faith in the man despite the failure of his policies.

Still crazy after all these years.

[tucker6]

Originally Posted by Clocker

And for some inconceivable reason, the approval ratings for his policies, taken one by one, are even lower than his overall approval ratings. I can only assume that to mean that there are people that still have faith in the man despite the failure of his policies.

Still crazy after all these years.

I think that it has more to do with the D in front of his name. When all else fails, support your party mentality.

[Tom]

Obama 1657 vs. Bush 575

That help clarify things?

[lamboguy]

i feel just as bad for the 575 families that lost their kids during Bush as the 1657 during Obama so far.

i think the worst thing that he is helping to collapse is going on right now, the oil market.

on the surface this looks great because consumers are now seeing real money in their pockets and supposedly we are punishing the enemy in the form of Iran and Russia. but i honesty can say that when Obama was going to school, Putin was coming home. this deal with the low oil prices is not to going end up good.

[horses4courses]

[Track Collector]

Originally Posted by horses4courses

Rush Revere Series?

[NJ Stinks]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Also, how many American soldiers have died in Afghanistan since Obama moved into the White House...compare that to Bush...

Obama 1657 vs. Bush 575

If you can find substantially different statistics, bring em' on.

Apparently you just can't digest the fact that GWB started the war with Afghanistan in 2001. That makes Afghanistan just another in a long list of mistakes made by GWB that Obama had to clean up.

I know this fact is hard for you to grasp so I'll put it in a way that even a Yankee fan may understand. GWB was the U.S. starting pitcher. Officially, he went 3 innings, gave up 9 hits, 3 walks, a couple wild pitches, and was pulled with the US team down 9-0. Even worse, GWB left the game in the top of the 4th inning with the bases loaded and nobody out. In comes Obama in relief....

The U.S winds up losing the game 13-2. Do U.S. baseball fans everywhere scream Obama was the reason we lost the game? Who gets credit for the loss?

[tucker6]

The Taliban and Al Queda living in Afghanistan planned and executed nearly 3,000 Americans on 9/11. Was it really a mistake to seek retribution against those who committed such an atrocity? What would President NJ Stinks have done? Meet up with Osama at a bar and have a beer to discuss things over?

The war in Afghanistan was against the terrorists living and running that country, and that were continuing to promote terrorism on a growing basis. You'd be hard pressed to find many people that consider going into Afghanistan a mistake. Understanding when to get out is another matter entirely, but we had to respond to planes hitting buildings.

[lamboguy]

Originally Posted by tucker6

The Taliban and Al Queda living in Afghanistan planned and executed nearly 3,000 Americans on 9/11. Was it really a mistake to seek retribution against those who committed such an atrocity? What would President NJ Stinks have done? Meet up with Osama at a bar and have a beer to discuss things over?

The war in Afghanistan was against the terrorists living and running that country, and that were continuing to promote terrorism on a growing basis. You'd be hard pressed to find many people that consider going into Afghanistan a mistake. Understanding when to get out is another matter entirely, but we had to respond to planes hitting buildings.

if it was up to me, i would have blown the whole place up, and maybe do the same with Iraq, Iran, Pakistan and all the oil over there as well. they are all cancer's where the cells are multiplying real fast. you got to get them before they can get you..

[woodtoo]

Obamas response to N.Korea hacking and threatening carnage on American soil.

"go to the movies......"

that's all folks

thanks boss

[NJ Stinks]

Originally Posted by tucker6

The Taliban and Al Queda living in Afghanistan planned and executed nearly 3,000 Americans on 9/11. Was it really a mistake to seek retribution against those who committed such an atrocity? What would President NJ Stinks have done? Meet up with Osama at a bar and have a beer to discuss things over?

The war in Afghanistan was against the terrorists living and running that country, and that were continuing to promote terrorism on a growing basis. You'd be hard pressed to find many people that consider going into Afghanistan a mistake. Understanding when to get out is another matter entirely, but we had to respond to planes hitting buildings.

Unlike Iraq, attacking Afghanistan made sense. Unfortunately, Bush concentrated war efforts on Iraq and had no exit strategy for either war. Hence, Obama was left to clean up both messes.

PA made the point that more American soldiers died in Afghanistan after Obama took office than when GWB was president - as if that makes Obama more of war monger or less of a leader somehow. My point was and is that Obama had to address huge problems dropped in his lap by GWB. The solution was to increase military efforts in the only place we should have attacked to begin with (Afghanistan) while slowly withdrawing from Iraq.

To me PA's point is absurd. Obama did what GWB should have done years ago.

[reckless]

Originally Posted by Clocker

And for some inconceivable reason, the approval ratings for his policies, taken one by one, are even lower than his overall approval ratings. I can only assume that to mean that there are people that still have faith in the man despite the failure of his policies.

Still crazy after all these years.

It could also mean that those national companies taking polls are agenda driven as well, especially the kind such as the discredited ABC-CNN-NBC polls or laughable Huffington Post ones.

There is no law whatsoever that says it is illegal to produce false results of a poll taken. Aside from their 'word' where's the proof that any of these polls are actually taken, aside from the computer driven ones? And that's flawed to no end too.

Some may counter and say their credibility and reputation is at risk but these companies have repeatedly shown to have cared less about any credibility issue. The dupes and sycophants that promote and endorse these organizations have credibility issues themselves.

Please note all the incumbent Democrats that have lost races and their offices -- local, state and national -- throughout the country since 2010. Now that is the true meaningful 'poll' on Obama's popularity (or lack thereof), regardless what the 'media' tell us.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by NJ Stinks

Apparently you just can't digest the fact that GWB started the war with Afghanistan in 2001. That makes Afghanistan just another in a long list of mistakes made by GWB that Obama had to clean up.

I know this fact is hard for you to grasp so I'll put it in a way that even a Yankee fan may understand. GWB was the U.S. starting pitcher. Officially, he went 3 innings, gave up 9 hits, 3 walks, a couple wild pitches, and was pulled with the US team down 9-0. Even worse, GWB left the game in the top of the 4th inning with the bases loaded and nobody out. In comes Obama in relief....

The U.S winds up losing the game 13-2. Do U.S. baseball fans everywhere scream Obama was the reason we lost the game? Who gets credit for the loss?

I guess I can't count you then, among the long line of left-leaning folks on here and elsewhere who spouted consistently that Afghanistan was the JUST war...while Iraq was the UNJUST war.

Thus, you can't really go and blame Bush for Afghanistan...it has the left-wing seal of approval.