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Old 01-22-2022, 11:47 AM   #16
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He won on double digit longshots in races he bet against himself.

He,s either the worst handicapper out there or he has internal demons.

Why would you ride to win on a bomber if you bet chalk.

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Because the jockey's win fee is more than what the winning bet would pay. Anybody know how much he is betting?

Betting against a double digit winner makes him the worst handicapper out there?
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Old 01-22-2022, 12:26 PM   #17
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He won on double digit longshots in races he bet against himself.

He,s either the worst handicapper out there or he has internal demons.

Why would you ride to win on a bomber if you bet chalk.

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Like I said, it is a good hedge.
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Old 01-22-2022, 12:30 PM   #18
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russ all i can say is that when they bet on the horse they ride its a large bet
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Old 01-22-2022, 01:06 PM   #19
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I would like to see what kind of bets the guy made before going apesh*t on this. Including a couple of other horses ALONG WITH your horse in a horizontal wager is technically betting against yourself but not the same thing as betting another horse but not yours imo. Same with betting your horse in an exacta box.
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Old 01-22-2022, 01:12 PM   #20
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I would like to see what kind of bets the guy made before going apesh*t on this. Including a couple of other horses ALONG WITH your horse in a horizontal wager is technically betting against yourself but not the same thing as betting another horse but not yours imo. Same with betting your horse in an exacta box.
From what I understand he was gambling on everything and out of control. That makes him vulnerable to people he might owe money to. He can't be trusted in 60 days to be cured
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Swearing off gambling isn't hard -- it's easy! I've done it a thousand times!

W.C. also said, "I went to Philadelphia once, it was closed."
And I think W.C. said that about swearing off drinking.
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Old 01-22-2022, 01:57 PM   #22
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From what I understand he was gambling on everything and out of control. That makes him vulnerable to people he might owe money to. He can't be trusted in 60 days to be cured
Exactly why the military runs credit checks when you get a security clearance.
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Old 01-22-2022, 08:14 PM   #23
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He won on double digit longshots in races he bet against himself.

He,s either the worst handicapper out there or he has internal demons.

Why would you ride to win on a bomber if you bet chalk.

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Easy he bets a lot against his horse, and then his buddies and him bet his horse offshore.
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Old 01-22-2022, 09:00 PM   #24
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Where's the link for Sutherland exchanging favors or, are you just starting rumors?
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Old 01-22-2022, 09:15 PM   #25
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Where's the link for Sutherland exchanging favors or, are you just starting rumors?
There is a recent podcast out there with her where she talks about riders doing each other favors. I don't think she meant it is as bad as it sounds, but she should have been smarter. I'm sure if you google around you can find it.
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Where's the link for Sutherland exchanging favors or, are you just starting rumors?


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Old 01-22-2022, 09:41 PM   #27
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There is a recent podcast out there with her where she talks about riders doing each other favors. I don't think she meant it is as bad as it sounds, but she should have been smarter. I'm sure if you google around you can find it.
Ok thanks CJ
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There is a recent podcast out there with her where she talks about riders doing each other favors. I don't think she meant it is as bad as it sounds, but she should have been smarter. I'm sure if you google around you can find it.
What is said in a workplace should stay in a workplace.

Do I do favors for co workers.

Of course I do.

Do I talk about it.

Omertà.

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those were very interesting, thank you
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