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10-03-2018, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Who will save our country from the horrors it's currently suffering?
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Everything is a pendulum.
Democrats at this point.
The right swung in and helped right the country during and after Obama... but its tacked into this weird white nationalist zone.
It will swing back. The Republican Party is going to get nuked. Its going to lose part of its "family values" "wholesomeness" appeal and end up having to swing to the left more to pick up votes. It already did that with Trump to a large extent. (Trump and Bernie are nearly identical on trade... not that anyone was paying attention.)
Social conservatism is about all but dead at this point. I'm cool with that but the evangelical wing is going to start fracturing.
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10-03-2018, 12:07 PM
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
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You took my question seriously?
Now THAT'S funny.
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10-03-2018, 12:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
You took my question seriously?
Now THAT'S funny.
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You... in another thread... just seconds ago...
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We've been in trouble for the longest of times.
It's how Trump got elected in the first place.
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Defend Trump argument tactic #2... attack the person.
With the ability to flip-flop in mere seconds it makes honest discussion pretty impossible...
But Trump people certainly don't value honesty so there's that! 
Last edited by elysiantraveller; 10-03-2018 at 12:19 PM.
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10-03-2018, 12:22 PM
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PA Steward
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I sense a meme coming.
Before that happens, "in trouble" and HORRORS are not quite the same.
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10-03-2018, 12:49 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Originally Posted by 3 hole tripp
Thanks. I am not going to last long here. They are kicking me off the forum today. I don't think.
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FTFY
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10-03-2018, 12:52 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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10-03-2018, 07:40 PM
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Just another Facist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Now in Houston
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Originally Posted by FantasticDan
Criminal tax evasion and fraud.. money laundering. Felonies by the dozen.
Mad respect!
Now go start your 500th thread about POS Obama wearing a tie you don't like.  |
You guys keep pushing the Trumpers closer and closer to him..... 
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10-03-2018, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
You guys keep pushing the Trumpers closer and closer to him..... |
Like this?
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10-03-2018, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by horses4courses
Dan, my friend, I hate to break this to you.
This is tax avoidance and conservatives.
They go together like mustard on a hot dog.
It's a pastime they're proud of. Earns bragging rights.
I'm afraid it's going to take a bigger stake through the heart.
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Tax avoidance is not a crime. Everybody does it when they can. Learned Hand's famous quote about taxes is often cited in tax cases. "Anyone may arrange his affairs so that his taxes shall be as low as possible; he is not bound to choose that pattern which best pays the treasury. There is not even a patriotic duty to increase one's taxes. public duty to pay more than the law demands."
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10-03-2018, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyC
Tax avoidance is not a crime. Everybody does it when they can. Learned Hand's famous quote about taxes is often cited in tax cases. "Anyone may arrange his affairs so that his taxes shall be as low as possible; he is not bound to choose that pattern which best pays the treasury. There is not even a patriotic duty to increase one's taxes. public duty to pay more than the law demands."
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Its not.
Falsifying invoices and income statements is. There is proof of those.
Look I get it... its not a crime if Trump or his family do it.
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10-03-2018, 08:11 PM
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Smarty Pants
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Every Vote Counts
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The idea is first you prove your point.
I see nothing at this point. Other than claims.
The subject is Tax Fraud.
I do try at times.
Last edited by Buckeye; 10-03-2018 at 08:12 PM.
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10-03-2018, 08:15 PM
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Smarty Pants
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"There is proof of those."
Please go on.
Last edited by Buckeye; 10-03-2018 at 08:18 PM.
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10-03-2018, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Its not.
Falsifying invoices and income statements is. There is proof of those.
Look I get it... its not a crime if Trump or his family do it.
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I wasn't commenting to support Trump. I was commenting because of the post saying that Trump was engaged in tax avoidance.
As for proof, is it Avenati type proof or in a court of law adjudicated proof?
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10-03-2018, 08:54 PM
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Smarty Pants
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None of the above.
Good point.
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10-03-2018, 09:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyC
Tax avoidance is not a crime.
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I’m sure Horsey meant tax evasion, which is.
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