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Old 03-21-2018, 12:47 PM   #1
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Rainbow six thread

Would be cool to have a thread dedicated to this wager. Not as a place to debate whether it’s a scam or not, but one dedicated to the days card and so forth.
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Old 03-25-2018, 08:08 PM   #2
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If no one hits until the final day is 4/1 the mandatory payout day for Gulfstream?
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Old 03-25-2018, 08:12 PM   #3
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If no one hits until the final day is 4/1 the mandatory payout day for Gulfstream?
Yes. Should be bigger that last time.
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Old 03-25-2018, 09:00 PM   #4
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They are paying it out 3/31 because Sunday is Easter
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Old 03-25-2018, 09:41 PM   #5
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Old 03-26-2018, 12:50 AM   #6
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They are paying it out 3/31 because Sunday is Easter
Call me cynical, but I doubt the execs at GP are too concerned with Easter. After all, they will be having live racing on Sunday, the final day of their "championship meet". It wasn't that long ago that the Fair Grounds and one cheap harness track (Liberty?) were the only tracks running on Easter.

Saturday the 31st, on the other hand, is Florida Derby Day, and the crowd, handle and excitement of a $25M Rainbow Six will be mind boggling, assuming the Rainbow Six doesn't get hit in the two live racing days (Thursday and Friday) this week. Should be a nice pad to offset much of the takeout, even with chalky results.

Unfortunately, with the Dubai World Cup earlier in the day, chances are I'll be tapped out by mid-card at Gulfstream....
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Old 03-27-2018, 04:39 PM   #7
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Call me cynical, but I doubt the execs at GP are too concerned with Easter. After all, they will be having live racing on Sunday, the final day of their "championship meet". It wasn't that long ago that the Fair Grounds and one cheap harness track (Liberty?) were the only tracks running on Easter.

Saturday the 31st, on the other hand, is Florida Derby Day, and the crowd, handle and excitement of a $25M Rainbow Six will be mind boggling, assuming the Rainbow Six doesn't get hit in the two live racing days (Thursday and Friday) this week. Should be a nice pad to offset much of the takeout, even with chalky results.

Unfortunately, with the Dubai World Cup earlier in the day, chances are I'll be tapped out by mid-card at Gulfstream....
They pay out Saturday because by law New York is shut out on Easter. No horse racing, and no betting, but the casinos are still allowed to stay open.
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Old 03-27-2018, 05:06 PM   #8
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Call me cynical, but I doubt the execs at GP are too concerned with Easter. After all, they will be having live racing on Sunday, the final day of their "championship meet". It wasn't that long ago that the Fair Grounds and one cheap harness track (Liberty?) were the only tracks running on Easter.

Saturday the 31st, on the other hand, is Florida Derby Day, and the crowd, handle and excitement of a $25M Rainbow Six will be mind boggling, assuming the Rainbow Six doesn't get hit in the two live racing days (Thursday and Friday) this week. Should be a nice pad to offset much of the takeout, even with chalky results.

Unfortunately, with the Dubai World Cup earlier in the day, chances are I'll be tapped out by mid-card at Gulfstream....


Actually that is the reason they did it Saturday, they’d prefer to pay out the day after the Florida derby to have two big handles. Just as they did Pegasus weekend.

So yes maybe they don’t give a poop it’s Easter but they give a poop that handle would be diminished by the holiday.
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Old 03-27-2018, 06:09 PM   #9
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I only give a poop because if it carries, it will be a large pool.
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Old 03-27-2018, 06:28 PM   #10
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I only give a poop because if it carries, it will be a large pool.
The carryover pool on Sunday will be $0 since Saturday is the mandatory payout.
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Old 03-27-2018, 06:34 PM   #11
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Unfortunately, with the Dubai World Cup earlier in the day, chances are I'll be tapped out by mid-card at Gulfstream....

Not me, I can assure you.

The way I look at it, there are 4 more shots at it.

I used to think the Rainbow Six was a sucker bet, but no more. I like it.

Try and win millions in the lottery when there are sixty nine horses running in each leg.
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Old 03-28-2018, 11:43 PM   #12
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Initial thoughts on races 9-11 on Saturday. Planning on the Carryover to go Mandatory.

First 3 races look tough. Going to spend some money.

Race 9. MSW looks to have 2 solid contenders, the Art Collection made a bid but flatted late, and look at the last work. Trainer change is going to leave some scratching their head and might add to the price. Also looking at the Mr. Discretionary, have some concerns here, most notably 7 tries so far and is still a maiden. I like the claim and the move back to Non-claiming. Also using the .

Race #10: Optional Claiming with out one entered for a tag. Think the easy one to spot here is the Outplay. Pletcher and Johnny V are going to attract a lot of attention, and you have to use him but, IMO is a very vulnerable favorite. The 2 horses I like for the upset are the Richard The Great and the Weekend Hideaway. Others to consider are the .

Race 11: HoneyFox G-3 has a solid field of ten, and what I refer to as a soft single. Grizzel is going to be a price and will be playing strongly. Last two races look substandard but the worst one was on synthetic. Last race had no pace help, but finished strongly. Other one to use is the On leave. Will be using a few others also.
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Old 03-30-2018, 04:17 AM   #13
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My race ratings for each horse (0-100) and picks:

Race 9

1. 64

2. 63.7

74.9

4. 58.8

5. 58.3

6. 64.7

71.2

73.5

9. 54.5

10. 63.1

64.3



Race 10

1. 74.8

2. 68

77.5

4. 68.7

5. 67.9

6. 72.9

7. 76.4

78.1

85.5

10. 72.1

11. 62.6



Race 11

1. 76.9

80.9

82.6

4. 80.7

5. 69.5

6. 72.8

7. 75.8

8. 77

9. 67

87.4



Race 12

1. 71.3

82.7

84.1

4. 79.3

76.3

6. 71.7

7. 75.5

8. 75.3

80.3

10. 64.7

85.1

12. 75.6

13. 73.3




Race 13

1. 79.7

2. 83.8

86.8

4. 80.4

5. 80.4

6. 73.2

88.4

87.6

9. 77.1 9. 83.3



Race 14

92.2

2. 60.4

3. 71

85.2

5. 75.7

89.8

7. 80

92.4
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They pay out Saturday because by law New York is shut out on Easter. No horse racing, and no betting, but the casinos are still allowed to stay open.
Ah, that makes sense. At first I thought russmeister was confused about geography since GP is in the Sunshine State, but I see the logic of allowing the fans from NY the chance to get their money back they've put into the pot so far....
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Old 03-30-2018, 05:12 AM   #15
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Unfortunately, with the Dubai World Cup earlier in the day, chances are I'll be tapped out by mid-card at Gulfstream....

Not me, I can assure you.

The way I look at it, there are 4 more shots at it.

I used to think the Rainbow Six was a sucker bet, but no more. I like it.

Try and win millions in the lottery when there are sixty nine horses running in each leg.
Down to the Good Friday card now, and with a couple of six horse fields, it's 1-35 that the Rainbow Six carries over into Saturday.

It's sort of a mixed bag when it comes to being a sucker bet. Yes, the payouts are reduced when multiple tickets hit due to the portion of the pool carried over, but - the 20 cent price helps the little fish out (like me), and there seems to be some evidence "the spread" the bigger players use actually bumps up the payouts when chalk rolls all day. I've hit it once this year, and am a couple of hundred in the black on the wager. It helps me weed out some pick 3s or a key bet though, and that's what I like about it.

I'll try to remember to post my selections for it on Saturday, regardless of whether I'm tapped or not.
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