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02-08-2008, 01:51 PM
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velocitician
Join Date: Aug 2004
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How low can you go
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"If this world is all about winners, what's for the losers?" Jr. Bonner: "Well somebody's got to hold the horses Ace."
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02-08-2008, 02:24 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: New York
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I don't know what your problem is, but I'll bet it's hard to pronounce.
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We have been saddled with a government that pays lip service to the nation’s freedom principles while working overtime to shred the Constitution.
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02-08-2008, 03:36 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Canandaigua, New york
Posts: 112,871
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I think there is no limit on how low terrosists can go, so thank goodness we have a guy here willing to do what it neccessary to protect innocent people from them.
Funny, I don't ever remember "Cliffy" here posting any outrage at all over beheadings, slavery, terror attacks, using mentally ill women as bombs.....very strange what he focuses on.
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Who does the Racing Form Detective like in this one?
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02-08-2008, 05:30 PM
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Just another Facist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Now in Houston
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Compared to cutting off heads............? I see a lack of aggresion on our part.......we need to ramp it up
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02-08-2008, 06:30 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JustRalph
Compared to cutting off heads............? I see a lack of aggresion on our part.......we need to ramp it up
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No kidding, like a wise man once said " Everybody's got a plan....until you punch them in the mouth"
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02-08-2008, 11:37 PM
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Just another Facist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Now in Houston
Posts: 52,797
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RaceBookJoe
No kidding, like a wise man once said " Everybody's got a plan....until you punch them in the mouth"
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A wise man? That was Mike Tyson........ But it makes it no less accurate
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02-08-2008, 11:53 PM
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Veteran
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 148
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A Question for all you liberals.
While your at work your wife, 5 year old daughter, 2 year old son, your new baby girl, your parents are preparing a birthday party for you. Five Terrorists with hoods and all break into your house and capture your family. They then burry your entire family in a shallow grave with enough air to last 4 hours. When one of the terrorists makes a phone call for ransom he is captured by police while tracing the call. Now the question: To what extreme do you go to save your family?
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02-09-2008, 02:36 AM
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
Posts: 88,633
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How low can I go? Well, I could vote for Hillary or Obama...that's about as low as I can go, I believe....
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02-09-2008, 02:38 AM
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velocitician
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 26,297
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Quote:
Originally Posted by King Ritchie
While your at work your wife, 5 year old daughter, 2 year old son, your new baby girl, your parents are preparing a birthday party for you. Five Terrorists with hoods and all break into your house and capture your family. They then burry your entire family in a shallow grave with enough air to last 4 hours. When one of the terrorists makes a phone call for ransom he is captured by police while tracing the call. Now the question: To what extreme do you go to save your family?
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You have terrorists in your neighborhood? Strange.
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"If this world is all about winners, what's for the losers?" Jr. Bonner: "Well somebody's got to hold the horses Ace."
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02-09-2008, 08:24 AM
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Unreconstructed
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Appalachia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 46zilzal
You have terrorists in your neighborhood? Strange.
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Not that strange.....you may have some in yours.
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02-09-2008, 08:28 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by King Ritchie
While your at work your wife, 5 year old daughter, 2 year old son, your new baby girl, your parents are preparing a birthday party for you. Five Terrorists with hoods and all break into your house and capture your family. They then burry your entire family in a shallow grave with enough air to last 4 hours. When one of the terrorists makes a phone call for ransom he is captured by police while tracing the call. Now the question: To what extreme do you go to save your family?
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Replace the words "Five Terrorists" with "Five Criminals" and it is a familiar police situation. What would professional Police departments do?
Forms of coercion are necessary in desperate situations. When the government engages in forms already deemed against the law, at least transparency and oversight is required. Many times situations are no where near as desperate as you portray, and many times the forms are illegal. It would be nice to know how many times the administration broke the law on their claim of "the means justifies the ends".
Before you cite Rare and EXTREME situations to justify your EXTREME argument be aware of the civil rights slipery slope you are accepting.
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02-09-2008, 10:01 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,988
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hcap
Before you cite Rare and EXTREME situations to justify your EXTREME argument be aware of the civil rights slipery slope you are accepting.
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If KR's situation played out there are NO civil rights for the abductor. He's just forfeited all of them.
Torture,drugging,maiming are all now in play and fully justifiable in my book.
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02-09-2008, 11:18 AM
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Veteran
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: United States of America
Posts: 5,871
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Kr,
Your paranoia is not becoming of you. And then, just because you are paranoid doesn't mean they are not really out to get you.
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02-09-2008, 01:37 PM
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Just another Facist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Now in Houston
Posts: 52,797
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hcap
Replace the words "Five Terrorists" with "Five Criminals" and it is a familiar police situation.
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Familiar? Where? Maybe in Detroit. In certain neighborhoods. Almost never in most areas. Home invasions occur regular now. But almost never are the bad guys still there when the police arrive. And most home invasions are drug related.
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02-09-2008, 05:22 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Canandaigua, New york
Posts: 112,871
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Whatever it takes. No matter who the bad guy is. Operative word here is bad.
At some point, the "presumption" of innocence is just plain ridiculous. We are far to easy on criminals in this country.
I read an article in the Post today - a cop killer from 1973 is getting out. Funny, the cop is still dead.
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