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Old 08-09-2018, 05:47 PM   #586
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The chart has been adjusted to a hand time for the final time and fractions removed. This is a better solution IMO than that six second thing.
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Old 08-09-2018, 06:23 PM   #587
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This is beyond belief.
Who are the CLOWNS who run NYRA these days?
I am guessing someone's nephew needed summer work - put him in charge of racing integrity.
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Old 08-09-2018, 06:29 PM   #588
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so HTH do observers/officials (nevermind the stewards) not notice this? Someone like the starter, or Larry Collmus? The offical timer? This is not a good look for anyone involved....
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I read somewhere , were they blame the eased horses on the extra dist.


Thought that was pretty funny
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One such thread that started about 2 1/2 years ago on PaceAdvantage.com lists 588 posts that have been viewed 81,460 times by forum readers under the heading “Fractional Time Errors.” The tracks alleged to have mistakes range from small- and mid-level venues to the sport’s most elite race meets.

Pointing out timing errors is hardly new. In a 2014 Washington Post column titled “Horse Racing’s Runaway Run-ups are Moving the Starting Line,” Andrew Beyer, the dean of turf writing and the creator of Beyer Speed Figures, wrote that the system of allowing up to hundreds of feet between the starting gate and when the first horse triggers the electronic timing beam is “preposterous” because “Thoroughbred racing is the only sport that can’t produce accurate timing of its own events…. In a perfect world, Thoroughbred racing would do what every other sport does: Run races at exact distances and time them from the start.”

Earlier this year, Craig Milkowski of TimeformUS wrote in a blog post that the problem might be bigger than it appears at first glance. As an example at just one repeat offender, he cited data from 2009 through 2017 at Gulfstream Park showing the popular 7 1/2-furlong distance had been run nearly 800 times over the Florida’s track’s grass course. Yet in races at that distance, an astounding 100 different course set-ups were used, including one rail- and gate-placement configuration that resulted in a run-up of 384 feet–exceeding the sixteenth-of-a-mile gaffe at Saratoga on Wednesday by a full 54 feet.
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Old 08-13-2018, 04:53 PM   #591
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This type error is the scariest type in my opinion. They are tough to catch and the times seem plausible.

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This type error is the scariest type in my opinion. They are tough to catch and the times seem plausible.

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Makes Beyer's and Briss figures any where from 3 to 9 points higher. 3 points probably does not effect me in a negative way, 5 or higher will make a difference. Nice catch.
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Old 09-13-2018, 11:27 AM   #594
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Indiana Grand and Albuquerque have been timing disasters lately. Way too many to list.
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They shouldn't be listed the same as electronic timed races. Personally I'd italicize them, but there are probably better ways.
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I know this thread is probably for thoroughbred mess ups, but I remember last year at Western Fair (Harness Racing and a 1/2 mile track), I think they messed it up and said that the race went in 1:46.0. But I don't think he went faster than the greatest harness racing horse of all time Somebeachsomewhere where he went 1:46.4 world record. I went on the next day and found out they corrected it and went in 2:06.
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GP - same people who THINK they have a turf course!
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Had a bunch of questions yesterday asking me about the Woodbine Mile yesterday. This thread is pretty long, addresses that race and timing in general. These GPS systems are trouble IMO.

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Funny how all the major races that are covered all year, by NBC, FOX, MSG+, TVG, ATR.....this topic hardly ever gets talked about and no satisfactory answers are ever given.

Much more technology is given to the HATS. And I am not kidding. Sad state this game is in when timing races is optional.

Is there a market out there for someone to video time all tracks and SELL the actual data?

Or maybe there is already one out there that just doesn't advertise to the non-whales?
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