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03-23-2012, 09:56 AM
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C'est Tout
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Turfway Park and Sunland
Both host Derby preps this weekend, but i do not follow these tracks at all and am looking for some help in the way of par times (fingers crossed)....
Every year i am missing figs (my own) from 2 Derby preps and these are the two...if anyone has pars they would care to share i would greatly appeciate it.
Post them or PM me if you like...maybe i can offer something in return (no, not that  )
Thx Y'all !
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03-23-2012, 10:18 AM
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Stirred Up
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03-23-2012, 04:19 PM
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C'est Tout
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Is he running in one of those races?
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03-25-2012, 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by PhantomOnTour
Is he running in one of those races?
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Yes, Stirred Up, a Virginia horse, is being ridden by Martin Garcia and trained by Bob Baffert. His morning line odds are 8/1.
Some see the race as "insignificant" in the Triple Crown picture, but to me, any race that pays $800,000.00 is interesting at the least.
Baffert has a second horse, Castaway (KY) with Bejarano in the irons going off in a sweet spot at 2/1.
Todd Pletcher has John Velazquez on Ender Knievel at 6/1 ML.
Frankly, I was going to pass on it, but after dropping some small bucks on Went the Day Well at Turfway ($12.40 Winner), I am suddenly interested in the Sunny Southwest.
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03-25-2012, 10:28 AM
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Isn't He Clever/No Spin exacta box tossing money into the wind?
Thinking 50 on IHC to win and a 5$ exacta box - I've probably wasted 60 bucks on worse things.
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03-25-2012, 12:55 PM
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 Daddy Nose Best
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03-25-2012, 02:09 PM
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I like these four.
1.Isn't He Clever
2.Stirred Up
3.Daddy Nose Best
4.Tequila Factor
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03-25-2012, 02:22 PM
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Sunland Derby
 Isn't He Clever
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03-25-2012, 02:59 PM
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Sunland Derby
To me, this race could present an excellent betting opportunity.
I see Baffert's pair (especially Castaway) as beatable, and way over bet.
Neither appear all that fast, and Castaway will be close to even money.
Playing exotics, I may use them underneath, but not to win.
The two I like are #2 Ender Knievel and #4 Isn't He Clever.
Both are capable of taking this race.
Good luck!
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03-25-2012, 11:51 PM
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I'd like to see Baffert give Princess Arabella a shot to go against the boys in either a prep, or in the derby. I suspect it is a longshot to happen, but if some of his other prospects somehow veer off the derby trail I would think the percentage for this happening might go up.
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03-25-2012, 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Striker
I'd like to see Baffert give Princess Arabella a shot to go against the boys in either a prep, or in the derby. I suspect it is a longshot to happen, but if some of his other prospects somehow veer off the derby trail I would think the percentage for this happening might go up.
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She ran about 13 Beyer points slower than Daddy Nose Best did in the next race, and he would still be considered a pretty big Derby longshot. Taking on males wouldn't be the wisest move in my opinion.
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03-26-2012, 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by cj
She ran about 13 Beyer points slower than Daddy Nose Best did in the next race, and he would still be considered a pretty big Derby longshot. Taking on males wouldn't be the wisest move in my opinion.
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Let me guess 98-100 Beyer.
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03-26-2012, 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by redshift1
Let me guess 98-100 Beyer.
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I was anticipating more along the lines of a 93 for the winner but I don't make figs for Sunland. Just pure projection.
Daddy Nose Best showed he can handle dirt.....distance doesn't look like it will be a problem.
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03-26-2012, 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by cj
She ran about 13 Beyer points slower than Daddy Nose Best did in the next race, and he would still be considered a pretty big Derby longshot. Taking on males wouldn't be the wisest move in my opinion.
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I completely forgot the Sunland Oaks isn't even graded, so she wouldn't even qualify for the derby unless she shows up in a later prep.
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03-26-2012, 10:15 AM
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Too bad Holiday Promise isn't nominated...I liked him off his pedigree and even though he didn't win he sure made for a nice ex..
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