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04-30-2018, 04:48 PM
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Sunny Daytona Beach
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Daytona Beach
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I cancelled Twinspires, now what
Ok I canceled TS, got Xpressbet and Amwager, but only one does the Derby, any ideas please?
Thanks
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04-30-2018, 06:07 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2006
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One betting outlet isn't enough for you in the Derby?
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04-30-2018, 07:15 PM
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
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You sure Amwager isn't going to have the Derby? Just because they don't carry Churchill daily, I seem to remember them having the Derby card last year...but I could be mistaken...
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04-30-2018, 08:25 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
You sure Amwager isn't going to have the Derby? Just because they don't carry Churchill daily, I seem to remember them having the Derby card last year...but I could be mistaken...
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They told me they will not have CD for Oaks & Derby. They will take betting on the Preakness & Belmont Stakes cards.
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04-30-2018, 11:04 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Canandaigua, New york
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thaskalos
One betting outlet isn't enough for you in the Derby?
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Must be planning on "sending it in!" 
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05-01-2018, 06:41 AM
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It constantly amazes me, even at the age of 68, how long term destructive the horse racing business is. There are all these restrictive battles over who can do what in an industry that is only slightly healthier than video rental stores and pay phone booths. The late great sports writer Will McDonough wrote that at the end of World War II the three most popular sports in America were baseball, horse racing, and boxing. In 2018, of the three, only baseball is something more than just a niche sport. Serious racing fans like the people who post on this site deserve better leadership at both the industry and regulatory level.
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05-01-2018, 10:21 AM
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The Voice of Reason!
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The industry has yet to realize ALL tracks and ADWs benefit when the game grows, but almost all them continue to try to shrink it and save their own little piece of it. Even as subtly as overlapping post times continually, showing utter DISRESPECT for their customers.
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05-01-2018, 07:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom
Must be planning on "sending it in!" |
Warming up the ol' blowhole.
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05-01-2018, 08:29 PM
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Sunny Daytona Beach
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Daytona Beach
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Sorry I called and was told no, sadly, but my account with them is still open.
Guess I can use only Xpressbet, but if it goes down, guess i save money, ...lol
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05-02-2018, 11:12 AM
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Todd Bowker
Join Date: Oct 2005
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PTC will carry the Derby if you are still looking for an alternative.
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05-02-2018, 01:15 PM
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Join Date: May 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thaskalos
One betting outlet isn't enough for you in the Derby?
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Not when the "big three" all have a track record of issues/crashes on the biggest days. I think it was two years ago that TVG crashed an hour before the Derby race, and single-handedly caused a 9% dip in total handle. XpressBet and TwinSpires have also had issues in recent years, whether it be slow performance or an outright crash.
With that in mind, it's a good idea to have multiple outlets that you can switch to at a moment's notice.
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05-02-2018, 08:23 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: new york
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i agree. twinspires always has issues it seems with their web site when the money comes pouring in for bets. ironic isn't it? they behave as if they believe in the communist ethic, rather than welcoming an increase in revenue. fact is stranger than fiction.
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05-03-2018, 12:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 12/ALL/ALL
It constantly amazes me, even at the age of 68, how long term destructive the horse racing business is. There are all these restrictive battles over who can do what in an industry that is only slightly healthier than video rental stores and pay phone booths. The late great sports writer Will McDonough wrote that at the end of World War II the three most popular sports in America were baseball, horse racing, and boxing. In 2018, of the three, only baseball is something more than just a niche sport. Serious racing fans like the people who post on this site deserve better leadership at both the industry and regulatory level.
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Interesting and I agree. One aspect about this industry is Stronach and Churchill Downs, Inc have most of the tracks and seem to be competing against each other, rather than cooperating.
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