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Old 03-05-2011, 03:06 PM   #1
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wow santa anita just broke it off into all the bettors in the first race

the one horse, just freaking stood there when the gate opened, never left the gate. no refunds.
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Old 03-05-2011, 03:09 PM   #2
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the one horse, just freaking stood there when the gate opened, never left the gate. no refunds.
"Dwelt" - If the gate opened and the horse didn't come out, there likely won't be refunds unless the gate crew interfered and didn't let him go.
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Old 03-05-2011, 03:10 PM   #3
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the one horse, just freaking stood there when the gate opened, never left the gate. no refunds.



unless there was a gate malfunction which sounded like there wasnt, they aint refunding nothing.

Horse caused him own problem by not breaking..
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Old 03-05-2011, 03:11 PM   #4
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I believe that CHRB rules are very narrow in circumstances like this (dwelt in the gate, stayed in the gate). A mechanical problem with the gate, or interference by an assistant starter, are a couple reasons for a non-start. But if the gate opened and the horse just stood there.... it had every opportunity to start.
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Old 03-05-2011, 03:12 PM   #5
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They only refund if its their fault. If its the horses fault, than no refund. That's a fair policy.
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Old 03-05-2011, 03:28 PM   #6
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None of those reasons make it right.
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Old 03-05-2011, 03:30 PM   #7
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You bet on a horse, that literary did not run 1 step. that's not fair, I don't care how you slice it.
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Old 03-05-2011, 03:34 PM   #8
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You bet on a horse, that literary did not run 1 step. that's not fair, I don't care how you slice it.
It has been this way forever. The rule seems fair to me.
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Old 03-05-2011, 03:43 PM   #9
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It has been this way forever. The rule seems fair to me.

Me too....it is just a bad break and as you say, I am pretty sure it has always been that way.
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Old 03-05-2011, 03:45 PM   #10
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unless there was a gate malfunction which sounded like there wasnt, they aint refunding nothing.

Horse caused him own problem by not breaking..
What happens if ALL the horses in the starting gate refuse to break when the gate opens...and there is NO gate malfunction?

Is the track obligated to return the money to the bettors then...or do they just keep it for themselves?
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Old 03-05-2011, 03:49 PM   #11
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Is it just me or has there been more than the usual whiny "it's not fair" posts lately?
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Old 03-05-2011, 03:50 PM   #12
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What happens if ALL the horses in the starting gate refuse to break when the gate opens...and there is NO gate malfunction?

Is the track obligated to return the money to the bettors then...or do they just keep it for themselves?
Surely you don't want us to DWELL on that.
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Old 03-05-2011, 04:03 PM   #13
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You bet on a horse, that literary did not run 1 step. that's not fair, I don't care how you slice it.
How long have you been betting the races? It has been this way forever at every track. If the gate opens and the horse doesn't run t.s.
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Old 03-05-2011, 04:16 PM   #14
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Is it just me or has there been more than the usual whiny "it's not fair" posts lately?
It's not you.
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Old 03-05-2011, 04:18 PM   #15
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You know what else isn't fair? Losing your money when your horse doesn't win. It's just not fair. You should get your money back. Where's HANA on this.
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