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01-17-2011, 11:07 PM
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Bad Call
Voters could not bring themselves to deny Zenyatta HOTY for another year, thus they avoided the facts and denied the more deserving Blame.
Even if you think it was close before the BC, Blame's victory there should have been the deciding factor, regardless of the margin of victory. Looks like voters voted with their heart, and not their minds.
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01-17-2011, 11:08 PM
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This just in: the winner of the Juvenile Turf has been named top 2YO over Uncle Mo because he was more popular among female race fans.
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01-17-2011, 11:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
You have to feel just a little bit embarrassed, right?
What happens on the track and who you've beaten all year now means absolutely nothing.
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Sorry, but she won the Classic last year!
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01-17-2011, 11:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Some_One
1)She had to spot weight because they were at least 6-9 lengths slower then Z
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Don't confuse Sugar Ron with handicapping logic as he does not understand it.
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01-17-2011, 11:13 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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And they all liver happily ever after.
Good night,
Sleep tight.
Dream sweet dreams.
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01-17-2011, 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by SmartyParty
Sorry, but she won the Classic last year!
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The award is Horse of the YEAR for 2010....not for a two year period or what some people believe was a past unjust decision.
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01-17-2011, 11:22 PM
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Valuist .People have to use 2009 etc because there is nothing for them to shout about in 2010.
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01-17-2011, 11:25 PM
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This just shows how really messed up Horse Racing is!!!!!
The powers that be can't even get this right!!!!
How come everyone who runs this game or writes about it is a complete moron?
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01-17-2011, 11:26 PM
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Major props to those who predicted this, especially saratoga guy who now has money coming from me.
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01-17-2011, 11:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NTamm1215
Here it is for all of eternity, a true HOTY campaign:
1st, Santa Margarita, def. Dance To My Tune, Striking Dancer
1st, Apple Blossom, def. Taptam, Just Jenda
1st, Vanity, def. St Trinian's, Zardana,
1st, Clement Hirsch, def. Rinterval
1st, Lady's Secret, def. Switch
2nd, BC Classic
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Upset twice
Wildair three times
King Thrush
Donnacona three times
Blazes twice
On Watch
St. Allen
Fairway
David Harum
Yellow Hand
John P. Grier twice
King Albert
Hoodwink
Damask
Paul Jones
Sir Barton
What is the above list? It's a list of the horses beaten by Man 0 War in his three year old campaign. With the exception of Sir Barton, who was not at his best during the Kenilworth Match Race, this is not exactly a Who's Who of racing for that time.
What's the point? You can only beat those who are willing to race against you. So, your publishing of a list of who Zenyatta beat is meaningless.
You could argue that Zenyatta should have come east; should have run on dirt and should have faced males. But, we have only speculation about how Zenyatta would have fared in those circumstances. We do know that in the one race she did run back east, on the dirt, against males she lost by a nose. She did so after overcoming a very slow start, and an uninspired middle. Her performance in the Breeders Cup Classic was at least as impressive as the performance of Blame; probably more impressive.
This Rachel Alexandra fan thinks Zenyatta is a deserving winner of Horse of the Year.
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01-17-2011, 11:31 PM
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Congratulations to all the Eclipse Award winners, but especially Ramon Dominguez who is rapidly moving to the top of my "all time" jockey list.
I've already said all I want to say about Zenyatta's ability as a horse and the HOTY award.
I will add one thing. I think a lot of voters weren't swayed by either accomplishment during the year or who they thought was the better horse (on both sides).
I think a huge number were swayed by the positive impact Zenyatta had on the sport. In that regard, we have rarely witnessed anything like Zenyatta. No horse I can recall has ever had thousands of people waiting for her at the airport or at a farm in freezing weather, got a spot on 60 Minutes, accumulated 60K friends on Facebook, had thousands of visitors to her blog daily looking for updates on her breeding and how she's doing etc...
She has clearly brought new fans to the game (especially women) at a time when the sport in sinking into an abyss at lightning speed.
Perhaps something positive for the sport will come out of her great career.
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Last edited by classhandicapper; 01-17-2011 at 11:33 PM.
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01-17-2011, 11:33 PM
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Both awesome horses. Blame probably shoulda won, but expected Zen to get the nod. Its an award, who cares.
I wanted Zenyatta to win HOY is because the only time all the Zenyatta detractors ever said anything good about her was immediately after her defeat. You all ran to your computers as fast as possible and posted on the thread, "Okay i admit, Zenyatta is a good horse" Meanwhile you were yelling and screaming in front of your TV for the wire to come, and for Blame to hold on. I feel like all the miserable detractors missed out on something that they'll probably never see again in the sport. It was a fun ride for all us fans!
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01-17-2011, 11:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OTM Al
Thank god it's over.
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You're kidding..right? This thread should wind down sometime in may.
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01-17-2011, 11:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mountainman
You're kidding..right? This thread should wind down sometime in may.
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SO true
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01-17-2011, 11:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie D
Fact, Blame beat her and numerous other Graded winners and that apparently counts for nothing with a lot of those who write and talk about this Great Game.
Just shows what load of asses we have writing and talking about this sport in my humble opinion.
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He also lost to Haynesfield by open lengths, stellar performance in that race!
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