Obama, the new Nader

[linrom1]

I can't believe it, Dems are doing it again: handing out fall elections to Republicans. Obama has got like zero chance of winning in the Fall and beating Republican nominee. With the fiscal, economic and political crisis our nation is facing, there is no where in hell Obama gets elected. He will be trounced like Mondale, Dukakis or McGovern. VOTE for Hillary, damn it!!!!

[Greyfox]

Originally Posted by linrom1

I can't believe it, Dems are doing it again: handing out fall elections to Republicans. Obama has got like zero chance of winning in the Fall and beating Republican nominee. With the fiscal, economic and political crisis our nation is facing, there is no where in hell Obama gets elected. He will be trounced like Mondale, Dukakis or McGovern. VOTE for Hillary, damn it!!!!

Obama is not my pick either.
But I think that your read on the situation is wrong.
His opening win in Iowa has started a fire.
He'll win again in New Hampshire and the blaze will grow bigger.
As he rolls south more and more will be jumping on his band wagon.
People are like sheep in that regard.
And guess what? He'll not only win the Democratic nomination, he'll
beat the Republicans as well.
America will have it's first black president.
That's what my crystal ball says.
But he's not my pick. He seems to be a great man, but he just doesn't have enough experience in both foreign and domestic affairs.

(Obama's role in this is far different than Nadirs. Ralph split votes away from the Dems.
Barack will be a key player.)

[GaryG]

Originally Posted by Greyfox

As he rolls south more and more will be jumping on his band wagon.

Uh....don't think so. I agree with the original poster that Obama as a candidate would be like McGovern or Mondale to the dems. Hillary would have a better chance of getting elected (shudder).

[Greyfox]

Originally Posted by GaryG

Uh....don't think so. I agree with the original poster that Obama as a candidate would be like McGovern or Mondale to the dems. Hillary would have a better chance of getting elected (shudder).

A prairie fire. You'll see. But I was wrong in 1956 once.

[Gittup]

Originally Posted by Greyfox

A prairie fire. You'll see. But I was wrong in 1956 once.

Hillary's problem (besides her denegrating husband) is that she starts every sentence with "I". Obama's appeal is that he starts every sentence with "we".
Though Barack is not my favorite (Dennis K is), his words of hope and change appeal to many.
On a side note, did you know that the first American to give his life in the cause of liberty (1770) was a black man, Americus Crisspus (sp)?
It's time to restore the freedoms and liberties to ALL! That dream has never died. AND IT NEVER WILL!

[ddog]

Originally Posted by Greyfox

A prairie fire. You'll see. But I was wrong in 1956 once.

I really think there are about 20% or so of the DEMS that will NOT VOTE for her. That spells certain doom in a general.

Also, if she were to take out Obama , the black turnout for her would not be there as well.
She will have to go to the slash/burn on race to take him out or it will be looked at that way.

She can't win now in the general , no way I can see.

Mccain or Romney and maybe Rudy still, would all beat her to death.


She isn't Bill on the campaign trail.
The longer she is exposed the worse she looks and SOUNDS.

Always with the I I I I am going to bring you something crap.

I think Obama along with a southern white independent type would have the best chance to win for the DEMS.

[46zilzal]

Originally Posted by Gittup

It's time to restore the freedoms and liberties to ALL! That dream has never died. AND IT NEVER WILL!.

It will remain a dream as long as fat cats want more and more and more and more and more and more and more anc more and more......

[Gittup]

Originally Posted by 46zilzal

It will remain a dream as long as fat cats want more and more and more and more and more and more and more anc more and more......

True that. The only little problem that the "fat cats" face is that "we the people" want our piece of American pie. So, it's not "we the fat cats" after all, it really is "we the people". And more than about time to but the fat felines on a starvation diet!

[Tom]

So who in this country willing to work for it is being denied liberty?

[rastajenk]

I think the guy's name was Crispus Attucks, or CoCo Crisp to his friends. His name is on the high school that the Big O, Oscar Robertson attended.

Just as a point of information.

[Gittup]

Originally Posted by rastajenk

I think the guy's name was Crispus Attucks, or CoCo Crisp to his friends. His name is on the high school that the Big O, Oscar Robertson attended.

Just as a point of information.

there ya go...some days names get obstufercated. Crispus Attucks it is!

[Gittup]

Originally Posted by Tom

So who in this country willing to work for it is being denied liberty?

Ask Valerie Plame.

[Greyfox]

Ralph Nader = Michael Bloomberg



Focus on Bloomberg at Bipartisan Summit

By SARA KUGLER – 1 hour ago

NORMAN, Okla. (AP) — New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg turned up the volume on a possible independent bid for president on Monday, participating in a bipartisan summit that stole a bit of the spotlight from the announced candidates in New Hampshire.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Gittup

Ask Valerie Plame.

Don't see her being deprived of any liberties.

[Gittup]

Originally Posted by Tom

Don't see her being deprived of any liberties.

Outing a covert CIA operative is an act of treason.