Not blaming this on Trump, but...

[TJDave]

Originally Posted by Parkview_Pirate

He's gonna have a hard time explaining that action to Jesus.

If you believe in a heaven and hell then...

No, he won't.

[zico20]

I love the part where the woman claims she was terrified by being stranded for hours and not being able to use the restroom. Oh please, if I was stranded on the side of the road and had to take a dump, I would pull my pants down and just do it. Sounds like this woman has more mental issues than physical issues. She should get herself into a mental ward ASAP. Being a Sanders supporter certainly adds a sense of urgency to it.

[Stillriledup]

Originally Posted by Nutz and Boltz

What an A_ _ HOLE this guy is!

http://www.foxcarolina.com/story/318...bernie-sanders

He's being elected to make America great again, not to be a nice guy.

[Nutz and Boltz]

Originally Posted by Stillriledup

He's being elected to make America great again, not to be a nice guy.

Somebody missed the point of the story. It's not about Trump being impolite. It's not about Donald Trump at all. It's about the way people act out their prejudices against people even by their political views or life styles. The tow truck driver knew nothing about the woman or her life situation, just that she had a Bernie sticker on her bumper, and refused to help with such a dumb ,stupid excuse. That, my friend is an Asshole!

[jballscalls]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

Where do you draw the line at a businesses right to refuse service? I once told a guy to pound sand when he asked me to make him a custom grille emblem that had a swastika in it. Nobody faults me for that, but if I refused to make a gay pride emblem the liberals would be all over me.

I think that's cause one group killed millions of people and the other group would just like to be treated well for being who they are. I would guess that's why the difference in reaction.

[classhandicapper]

Originally Posted by bks

So denying Nazis is equivalent to denying gays?

It depends on whether you value principles and private property or personal subjective judgement.

Liberals tend to value their judgement over principles until conservatives get power and try to impose their judgement on them and vice versa. Then they all have a hissy fit. That's why there is a good argument for being driven by private property and principle over political fashion. You may occasionally suffer the downside of having to protect the rights of someone you don't agree with, but that's better than someone you disagree with imposing their will on you.

[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

I refused to make a gay pride emblem the liberals would be all over me.

Originally Posted by TJDave

Would you have done that?

It would depend on what it was. If it was was just lettering that said "Gay and proud" I would have done it. If it was two shadow figures of two guys having sex the answer would have been no. I have turned down business just because I didn't like someone's personality. I do all custom machine work so it is a unique situation.

[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

Where do you draw the line at a businesses right to refuse service? I once told a guy to pound sand when he asked me to make him a custom grille emblem that had a swastika in it. Nobody faults me for that, but if I refused to make a gay pride emblem the liberals would be all over me.

Originally Posted by jballscalls

I think that's cause one group killed millions of people and the other group would just like to be treated well for being who they are. I would guess that's why the difference in reaction.

On the other hand maybe Mr. White Power has done nothing against the law himself, and is just expressing his beliefs. On the other hand if you are Christian (I am not religious) and follow the teachings of the Bible the gay guy is a sinner. In this specific case a Christian could view the gay guy with more disdain than the Nazi.

[mostpost]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

Where do you draw the line at a businesses right to refuse service? I once told a guy to pound sand when he asked me to make him a custom grille emblem that had a swastika in it. Nobody faults me for that, but if I refused to make a gay pride emblem the liberals would be all over me.

Interesting that you should think that the two are comparable. The Nazis murdered millions of people including many gay people. The gay pride movement killed nobody. That might be a place to draw that line.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by zico20

I love the part where the woman claims she was terrified by being stranded for hours and not being able to use the restroom. Oh please, if I was stranded on the side of the road and had to take a dump, I would pull my pants down and just do it. Sounds like this woman has more mental issues than physical issues. She should get herself into a mental ward ASAP. Being a Sanders supporter certainly adds a sense of urgency to it.

Yes, but nowadays, she can use ANY bathroom she pleases, so it is really troubling that she is unable to use her new-found rights to pee anywhere.

[mostpost]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

On the other hand maybe Mr. White Power has done nothing against the law himself, and is just expressing his beliefs. On the other hand if you are Christian (I am not religious) and follow the teachings of the Bible the gay guy is a sinner.
And the Nazi is not? You cannot be serious.

In this specific case a Christian could view the gay guy with more disdain than the Nazi.

I have just realized that you are right. The gay guy has to be morally more reprehensible than the Nazi. After all, the Bible says nothing about Nazis, while saying homosexuals should be stoned to death.

Clearly we should be applauding the Nazis for murdering millions of Jews and homosexuals, while we condemn people for wanting to be happy in their private lives.

In case you missed it-which you probably did-there is a heavy dose of sarcasm in the above.

[Stillriledup]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

Where do you draw the line at a businesses right to refuse service? I once told a guy to pound sand when he asked me to make him a custom grille emblem that had a swastika in it. Nobody faults me for that, but if I refused to make a gay pride emblem the liberals would be all over me.

Why would you refuse any service to a paying customer? Aren't you in business to make money?

[mostpost]

Let's get back to the original subject of the thread. Which was that a tow truck owner-operator refused to tow a woman's car because she had a Bernie Sanders sticker on her car.

He claimed it was because the stickers proved that she was a socialist and he had been "Berned" by socialists before, not simply because the lady was supporting Sanders. Well, we can't prove whether Mr. Shupe was or was not "Berned" by socialists in the past, but it is doubtful. More likely, anytime someone fails to pay him in a timely manner, his prejudices assign the socialism tag to them.

Regardless of that, in this case he was going to get paid. Because Mr. Shupe was not the person Ms. McWade called for a tow. She called the mechanic she had been doing business with for years. That person had all of his equipment engaged in other calls and would have been unable to make the service call for several hours. So he sub-contracted the job to Mr. Shupe and when he did, he told Mr. Shupe that he would guarantee the payment.

He did so because Ms. McWade had been a customer for many years and had a stellar credit history with him.

Shupe knew he was going to get paid. He refused the tow just to stick it to the woman.

As the Greenville attorney said, there are no laws against discriminating on the basis of political affiliation. There are laws against discriminating against the handicapped. There is ample evidence that Kenneth Shupe knew McWade was handicapped.

[Nutz and Boltz]

Originally Posted by mostpost

Let's get back to the original subject of the thread. Which was that a tow truck owner-operator refused to tow a woman's car because she had a Bernie Sanders sticker on her car.

He claimed it was because the stickers proved that she was a socialist and he had been "Berned" by socialists before, not simply because the lady was supporting Sanders. Well, we can't prove whether Mr. Shupe was or was not "Berned" by socialists in the past, but it is doubtful. More likely, anytime someone fails to pay him in a timely manner, his prejudices assign the socialism tag to them.

Regardless of that, in this case he was going to get paid. Because Mr. Shupe was not the person Ms. McWade called for a tow. She called the mechanic she had been doing business with for years. That person had all of his equipment engaged in other calls and would have been unable to make the service call for several hours. So he sub-contracted the job to Mr. Shupe and when he did, he told Mr. Shupe that he would guarantee the payment.

He did so because Ms. McWade had been a customer for many years and had a stellar credit history with him.

Shupe knew he was going to get paid. He refused the tow just to stick it to the woman.

As the Greenville attorney said, there are no laws against discriminating on the basis of political affiliation. There are laws against discriminating against the handicapped. There is ample evidence that Kenneth Shupe knew McWade was handicapped.

Just another case of "redneck thinking". Jumping to conclusions by how things seem on the face of it.

[delayjf]

Clearly we should be applauding the Nazis for murdering millions of Jews and homosexuals, while we condemn people for wanting to be happy in their private lives.

Being multi talented, I can disapprove of both. And what's preventing gays from being happy in their private life? They are no more entitled to societies approval than anyone else.